Glyphosate
- Thread starter dave78+
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It's the backbone of the conventional Regenerative farming system. Along with alot of cows housed 24/7
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- South Wales UK
Plenty of other threads on the topic on this forum to read up on too.
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Would we, the primary users not be suffering higher rates of cancer if it caused it?
I glug 100s of litres of 20 litre cans of raw product into my sprayer every year with no PPE.
If it was dangerous, operators would be affected. The amount left on food from treated foodstuffs would be miniscule in comparison.
I glug 100s of litres of 20 litre cans of raw product into my sprayer every year with no PPE.
If it was dangerous, operators would be affected. The amount left on food from treated foodstuffs would be miniscule in comparison.
well you better hope you don't end up with something later on then ,like Parkinsons because ive known a few farmers that have in a relatively small area...Would we, the primary users not be suffering higher rates of cancer if it caused it?
I glug 100s of litres of 20 litre cans of raw product into my sprayer every year with no PPE.
If it was dangerous, operators would be affected. The amount left on food from treated foodstuffs would be miniscule in comparison.
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- southern riverina Australia
Plenty of people with cancer AND Parkinson's that have never been near glyphosate... The link is tenuous at best.
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- South West
Have a look at the processed food thread. There’s the problem, not glyphosate.
Cancers and Parkinson's have been around longer than Glyphosate have they not?
Yes but in in the spread of a few miles 3 farmers that i can remember at the moment ,similar age range all wouldve either sprayed field .knapsack sheep dopped or use stiff like Warble fly dressing ....or all of the above .effective .ppe hasnt always been so good / available as in the modern day either.
the mix will be the worst thing all the different types of chems, even the modern SP 's ( synthetic pyrethroids) will have unknown possible effects ,long term, still early days relatively for their use.,certainly none of it should be taken lightly.
All used OPs. Certainly not the nicest of chemicals, fat soluble, wasn‘t it the late Mark Purdey who tried to get the establishment to recognise the link between OP warble treatment of cattle and BSE.
It was indeed he farmed not far from here for awhile (he got around a bit ) they tried to faff him off as eccentric (well he was a bit ) instead of the ' no fear and highly intelligent look at things differently type that he was...for want of a better way of putting it.
wanton dwarf
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Bees are nice, buzz about and make honey - sometimes.
But not required for the majority of agriculture. I think the UK produces something like 1% of it's fruit requirement.
"Bees" has been used as a ploy by the establishment to seriously undermine and destroy Oilseed Rape production in the UK - whilst the same Oilseed Rape is grown in Ukraine using the "Banned" pesticide seed treatment - one Ukraine agriculture company is on the UK stock exchange with 250,000 Hectares of land.
Some people might think that UK politicians are making sure that Ukraine company & others are going to do very nicely and don't give a rats bum for UK agriculture.
alomy75
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Not to mention Jo public can buy roundup from b and q and do what they want with it…as chemicals go roundup is one of the safest
wanton dwarf
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I recently read one of the leaflets for a Broad Leaved Weed powder - Danger of Death if breathed in - and they supply in a dust.
IMHO the only reason people are attempting to stop Glysophate is because it will destroy Western Farming practically overnight - promoting more and more imports.
IMHO most other chemicals are far more dangerous and I'd even include Nitrogen as more dangerous.
its supposed to be less toxic now that the P. tallow amine isnt in it.
Ive probably gone off topic because its the mix and use of chems over a relatively long period of time is my point.
no Glyphosate shouldnt stop farming because its not been around that long only came around here in the early/mid 80's before that we farmed without it and i havnt used it for 2 or 3 yrs even now, might 'need to' soon though
seriously tho i could farm wi out it no prob.wanton dwarf
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You're assuming imports are Chemical Free.
There is no doubt most imports are contaminated by lots of banned chemicals - it's just the powers that be turn a blind eye on purpose.
But you won't see any of the fake environmental groups or Media Outlets lifting a finger unless it's to harm the UK.
its supposed to be less toxic now that the P. tallow amine isnt in it.
Ive probably gone off topic because its the mix and use of chems over a relatively long period of time is my point.
no Glyphosate shouldnt stop farming because its not been around that long only came around here in the early/mid 80's before that we farmed without it and i havnt used it for 2 or 3 yrs even now, might 'need to' soon though
Yeah it's possible to feed the world without glysophate like we did in the eighties......
...... But we'd need to get rid of half the world's population so there would be the same number of mouths, like there was in the eighties
1980 4.4 billion people
2023 8 billion people
Tenuous links at best, if they were so keen on stopping cancer then alcohol, cigarettes & sun beds etc which all have very strong links would all be banned but it’s all about the money like climate change. Most things like cancer are generally pot luck. I no people with terrible lifestyles that have never had issues and others that have very healthy ones but have constant health issues!
Cowabunga
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It’s usually a consequence of old age and an ageing population, as is cancer.
You should be far far more worried about the international issue of very significant numbers of excess deaths currently ongoing but unseen and intensionally ignored by the World Health Organisation and almost all national governments .