Going rate for 64k poultry manager

[Chickenfarmer]

Looking for peoples thoughts and opinions on what is a fair rate of pay for a mid twenties farmers son capable of managing and overseeing 2 x 32k free range units.

My role includes managing staff, ordering feed, all the audits and paperwork etc, salmonella sampling, vermin control, bird performance, and filling in egg collecting / walking the birds while staff are off etc. I’m capable of repairing broken feed tracks effectively and fixing any problems the egg packer / equipment throws at us.

I work most days, and average around 45-50 hrs per week.

 

[teslacoils]

So the question is

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Do you currently work for your family?

 

[Chickenfarmer]

Yes I am, however having not had a pay rise for a number of years, and the extra responsibilities etc I feel it’s fair that I’m paid a fair salary for the work I do.
Many might say that I get to take on the farm eventually etc but nothing is guaranteed.
Personally I feel £28k

 

[Zippy768]

Can of worms!



N.b. that is not what I think you should be paid

 

[Courier]

How about a performance related rate ?

 

[Chickenfarmer]

How about a performance related rate ?

I personally like that approach, however this year we’ve been seriously challenged by IB, which has hindered performance. This is something that has affected many farms in the area, which would be unfair to penalise staff based on circumstances which we can not change.

 

[Zippy768]

I personally like that approach, however this year we’ve been seriously challenged by IB, which has hindered performance. This is something that has affected many farms in the area, which would be unfair to penalise staff based on circumstances which we can not change.

I think that is something you should discuss with family and/or boss.........are you "staff"??
From there you may get a better answer for your OP

Working for families is tough

 

[Werzle]

Looking for peoples thoughts and opinions on what is a fair rate of pay for a mid twenties farmers son capable of managing and overseeing 2 x 32k free range units.

My role includes managing staff, ordering feed, all the audits and paperwork etc, salmonella sampling, vermin control, bird performance, and filling in egg collecting / walking the birds while staff are off etc. I’m capable of repairing broken feed tracks effectively and fixing any problems the egg packer / equipment throws at us.

I work most days, and average around 45-50 hrs per week.

What kind of profit does it show ? Most farmers sons take a living wage which wouldnt reflect there hrs but helps the farm grow which will benefit them in the long run.

 

[Chickenfarmer]

I think that is something you should discuss with family and/or boss.........are you "staff"??
From there you may get a better answer for your OP

Working for families is tough

I appreciate your reply. Working with family has its pros and cons, but I don’t see why I should be working for what is essentially minimum wage and below, for work that is challenging. Nobody knows what will happen in the future and if the business goes bust or circumstances change etc I don’t have enough income to save and diversify and will have worked many years for a low salary.
I will be raising this with the family but wanted to get peoples opinions on here just to see.
I don’t squander money and want to invest / diversify into other assets but with a low income this is impossible.

 

[henman]

£12 a hour

 

[Zippy768]

I appreciate your reply. Working with family has its pros and cons, but I don’t see why I should be working for what is essentially minimum wage and below, for work that is challenging. Nobody knows what will happen in the future and if the business goes bust or circumstances change etc I don’t have enough income to save and diversify and will have worked many years for a low salary.
I will be raising this with the family but wanted to get peoples opinions on here just to see.
I don’t squander money and want to invest / diversify into other assets but with a low income this is impossible.

That is fair enough. Do you earn enough to have bought/buy your own home.
I work for family. Paid a wage, probably could of earned more elsewhere, but comfortable enough and have my own home. Now a partner but still take my wage.
You need a wage good enough to be able to stand on your own two feet if the worst happens. How much more above that is a very difficult question...

 

[Chickenfarmer]

£12 a hour

That’s what I had in mind 45 hours per week @ £12 per hour is £28k ??

 

[teslacoils]

House included? Car etc? Utilities?

Why not ask to become a partner in the family farm?

 

[Adam@Rumen]

All depends on whether or not you're a partner in my opinion

 

[Chickenfarmer]

That is fair enough. Do you earn enough to have bought/buy your own home.
I work for family. Paid a wage, probably could of earned more elsewhere, but comfortable enough and have my own home. Now a partner but still take my wage.
You need a wage good enough to be able to stand on your own two feet if the worst happens. How much more above that is a very difficult question...

I currently earn £18k, I have a small mid terraced property worth around £75k with £43k left on the mortgage which is being let.
And have around £5k in savings, silver and some crypto in the hopes of that booming again.

 

[Chickenfarmer]

House included? Car etc? Utilities?

Why not ask to become a partner in the family farm?

I have 20% of the limited company, which owns no assets it’s just the egg business. Car I pay for myself including insurance etc. I do get the fuel to go in it though (I cover around 7k miles per year)
No bills which is a big benefit, however I’m getting to the age where I’ll be moving out, married and kids most likely within 5 years so need to get things in order before then.

 

[Still Farming]

Top of the agricultural skilled scale pay range possibly?
But getting it maybe easier said than done.

 

[Frodo2]

So you are on £18000 plus a 20% profit share of a 64000 unit. A few years ago you were on a pretty good gig. Just now if the business is losing money you possibly paying to work. It's a bit more complicated than just a straight salary.

 

[Chickenfarmer]

So you are on £18000 plus a 20% profit share of a 64000 unit. A few years ago you were on a pretty good gig. Just now if the business is losing money you possibly paying to work. It's a bit more complicated than just a straight salary.

Sheds are paid off, I have 20% of the shares but by no means 20% of the profit, profit stays within the company.

 

[R J]

£26000 + house + council tax