Good luck root crop farmers …….

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I'm asking questions in an attempt to understand. I have never suggested agriculture is any different to any other industry.

Should all grain trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all silage trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all muck trailers and muckspreaders be sheeted?
Should all skips be fully sheeted securely so that in an accident the goods don't leave the lorry? i.e not a skip net
Should all 8 wheelers carrying soil/stone/gravel be fully sheeted so they don't leave the lorry in an accident? i.e. not a front/back net?
Should all gritters be sheeted?
Should all volumetric mixers be fully sheeted?
If I take the pickup to B&Q and buy a bag of sand does that (or the trailer) need to be securely sheeted so if I overturned it wouldn't escape?

Taking the above tweet it suggests that the answer to all of the above is YES. Is that the law?

I see many agricultural AND non-agricultural loads each day on the roads that if you turned the vehicle over the contents would all spill out.
 

Luke20

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South lincs
I think there has to be some common sense involved in this, i know with our 14t root crop trailer if you get a good load on you might just about squeeze 12t of potatoes in it if there is not alot of outgradings. now if you filled it so the potatoes were level with the sides you could probably half that number so about 6-7t in a 14t trailer... so then every potato grower has to run twice the amount of tractor and trailers to get the same amount of work done because of the potatoes being mounded up in the middle are a problem? not very realistic. If you load the trailers so they aren't spilling over the sides and are just mounded up in the middle they aren't going to come off the sides unless you are driving like a maniac.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
@Phil P started a thread about exactly this a couple of years ago.

 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
I'm asking questions in an attempt to understand. I have never suggested agriculture is any different to any other industry.

Should all grain trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all silage trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all muck trailers and muckspreaders be sheeted?
Should all skips be fully sheeted securely so that in an accident the goods don't leave the lorry? i.e not a skip net
Should all 8 wheelers carrying soil/stone/gravel be fully sheeted so they don't leave the lorry in an accident? i.e. not a front/back net?
Should all gritters be sheeted?
Should all volumetric mixers be fully sheeted?
If I take the pickup to B&Q and buy a bag of sand does that (or the trailer) need to be securely sheeted so if I overturned it wouldn't escape?

Taking the above tweet it suggests that the answer to all of the above is YES. Is that the law?

I see many agricultural AND non-agricultural loads each day on the roads that if you turned the vehicle over the contents would all spill out.
Dont talk shyte
 
I'm asking questions in an attempt to understand. I have never suggested agriculture is any different to any other industry.

Should all grain trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all silage trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all muck trailers and muckspreaders be sheeted?
Should all skips be fully sheeted securely so that in an accident the goods don't leave the lorry? i.e not a skip net
Should all 8 wheelers carrying soil/stone/gravel be fully sheeted so they don't leave the lorry in an accident? i.e. not a front/back net?
Should all gritters be sheeted?
Should all volumetric mixers be fully sheeted?
If I take the pickup to B&Q and buy a bag of sand does that (or the trailer) need to be securely sheeted so if I overturned it wouldn't escape?

Taking the above tweet it suggests that the answer to all of the above is YES. Is that the law?

I see many agricultural AND non-agricultural loads each day on the roads that if you turned the vehicle over the contents would all spill out.
In the case of the last point.. a trip to B&Q.. or anywhere else for that matter.. in Australia if you have anything in the back of your pick up..or Ute as they call them over there.. even if its a single empty cardboard it has to have a safety net over it.. no net expect a penalty notice
 
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roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
I'm asking questions in an attempt to understand. I have never suggested agriculture is any different to any other industry.

Should all grain trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all silage trailers be sheeted at harvest?
Should all muck trailers and muckspreaders be sheeted?
Should all skips be fully sheeted securely so that in an accident the goods don't leave the lorry? i.e not a skip net
Should all 8 wheelers carrying soil/stone/gravel be fully sheeted so they don't leave the lorry in an accident? i.e. not a front/back net?
Should all gritters be sheeted?
Should all volumetric mixers be fully sheeted?
If I take the pickup to B&Q and buy a bag of sand does that (or the trailer) need to be securely sheeted so if I overturned it wouldn't escape?

Taking the above tweet it suggests that the answer to all of the above is YES. Is that the law?

I see many agricultural AND non-agricultural loads each day on the roads that if you turned the vehicle over the contents would all spill out.
For the 3rd time you are not securing the load to stay in an accident just normal road use all loads have to be secured gravity is not a load restraint I don’t know why this is so difficult skips need to be netted tippers need to be sheeted all vehicles on the road need to have their loads secured just look up load security the government have a web site you can peruse at your leisure
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
In the case of the last point.. a trip to B&Q.. or anywhere else for that matter.. in Australia if you have anything in the back of your pick up..or Ute as they call them over there.. even it its a single empty cardboard it has to have a safety net over it.. no net expect a penalty notice
Cops have nothing else to do over there
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
common sense is a requirement for a job here, so clearly not the policeman who stopped this neighbours trailer !
You don't think the cop used common sense in stopping that trailer?
I can't believe he didn't weigh it, no way that trailers below 18 ton.
I can see why you're not in transport anymore.

It brings up an interesting point though, if your neighbour had a driver that did things properly, would the boss fit and use covers or would he fire the driver?
 
You don't think the cop used common sense in stopping that trailer?
I can't believe he didn't weigh it, no way that trailers below 18 ton.
Wonder how much one of those tri axle baileys weighs empty, I did have a quick google but couldn’t find out on their spec sheet, but the 20 ton model holds 24 m3, how many spuds in a cubic meter?
 
@Mounty @Cab-over Pete do you guys ever cross the road or go along the road with a loaded spreader? Pete's shown on here many times he's pretty hot on keeping the right side of the law with his machines given the Big A/Multidrive/Zetros discussions.

We cross roads often with a load and occasionally travel along a road too. I don’t travel along roads with full loads because I don’t like to punish the tyres too much. They’re designed for land, not heavy road work, so hardly ever would you see me with the load heaped up even slightly on the road.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
wouldn't the rules be different for a lime spreader/fert spreader or dung spreader as its not haulage and they are implements not trailers ?
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
what about all these lorry loads of straw you see going down the road with bits blowing off isn't that an insecure load, should be sheeted right over to stop this ?
 
Location
southwest
If the load extends above the fixed sides of the trailer, it has to be secured.

Ropes or ratchet straps for big stuff like bales, a sheet for small stuff like grain or spuds.

It's not exactly rocket science is it.
 

Old Tup

Member
Not impossible that some sort of regulation may appear limiting the distance that Farm Tractors and trailers can be use to haul produce…
Wouldn't be difficult to sell the idea to someone sitting in a couple of mile tailback behind the Nineteen year old with his phone firmly clamped to his ear sailing past empty lay-by after empty lay-by hauling potatoes from some land that the local potato baron has rented miles from his base….
Laws that fell into place in the middle of the last century are no longer really relevant.
 

AT Aloss

Member
NFFN Member
Not impossible that some sort of regulation may appear limiting the distance that Farm Tractors and trailers can be use to haul produce…
Wouldn't be difficult to sell the idea to someone sitting in a couple of mile tailback behind the Nineteen year old with his phone firmly clamped to his ear sailing past empty lay-by after empty lay-by hauling potatoes from some land that the local potato baron has rented miles from his base….
Laws that fell into place in the middle of the last century are no longer really relevant.
Regulations already state a 15 mile radius, but if you've got bits of land all over the place........
 

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