Gove on Brexit

arbel

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Location
Pembrokeshire
Nothing wrong with a government that protects its own peoples business, its what they are there for to look after the people in there country first and foremost to the best of there ability, they just havnt done this for a long time as the EU and so called free trade is the fashion of the day. Then there is foreign aid.

Did you know that we even give foreign aid to China. Every year, UK taxpayers money is sent to one of the most repressive regimes on this planet. Have our leaders lost their marbles?
Also include in that India (a nation with nuclear capability,) Iran, Argentina and that nice little man in Zimbabwe
 

turbo

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Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Did you know that we even give foreign aid to China. Every year, UK taxpayers money is sent to one of the most repressive regimes on this planet. Have our leaders lost their marbles?
Also include in that India (a nation with nuclear capability,) Iran, Argentina and that nice little man in Zimbabwe
It's a national disgrace that we borrow money to give it away but I don't think we can blame that on the eu
 
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Hilly

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Did you know that we even give foreign aid to China. Every year, UK taxpayers money is sent to one of the most repressive regimes on this planet. Have our leaders lost their marbles?
Also include in that India (a nation with nuclear capability,) Iran, Argentina and that nice little man in Zimbabwe
Yes its disgusting.
 

arbel

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Location
Pembrokeshire
1930's UK farms were abandoned. No one cared then

That is very true and what a serious position we found ourselves in by 1939. A lesson I hope that our government has not forgotten. But don't bet on it! As an island nation, importing enough to keep our population alive was not an option, despite a heroic Merchant Navy and the sacrifice of over 30,000 seamen.
My Mum was a Land Girl in those days. She told me that many people used to go to bed hungry. This is what can happen when a government takes its eye off the ball.
 
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Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Is Michael Gove some sort of fifth columnist planted by DC? Just listening to his plans on the radio for gathering up all the non EU European countries into a trading group that will trade with Europe with having to contribute to it. It had us rolling on the floor thinking it was the "Now Show" No wonder the teachers had him down as a complete idiot.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

arbel

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Location
Pembrokeshire
Is Michael Gove some sort of fifth columnist planted by DC? Just listening to his plans on the radio for gathering up all the non EU European countries into a trading group that will trade with Europe with having to contribute to it. It had us rolling on the floor thinking it was the "Now Show" No wonder the teachers had him down as a complete idiot.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Can you provide a link to that part of his talk on the radio? If he said this, then I am profoundly disappointed.
 
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JP1

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Livestock Farmer
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PSQ

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Arable Farmer
IF the people of the UK vote for 'Brexit', and it all goes completely tits up, will we get any redress from Gove?

I doubt it, but after listening to his cocksure statements that everything will be fine and the remain camp are 'just making stuff up', if he gets this wrong I'd like to see him dangling on a noose from Tower bridge, Mussolini style.

As for his comments about "We'll be able to import cheap food from developing countries so prices will fall in the shops, which has to be good for everyone!" - what a complete bell end.
 

banjo

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Location
Back of beyond
It's all about control, we give them our money and wait for it to be given back if we are lucky.
They make the rules, we listen ( yes sir, no sir, thank you very much sir )
Mrs thatcher and Churchill would turn in their graves if we throw this chance away, it won't come around again.
The country is currently bumbling along borrowing to keep going like a farm that's in the sh!t. The way that farm gets going again is to change direction and stop doing the same old thing.
Once that happens and you embrace the challenge it is like a new lease of life for the farm and it will be the same for the country.
 

Honest john

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Location
Fenland
Politicians talk to the masses, when they want to steer a vote.
As we all know what they say & what they do if they get power are two very different things.

If they come out & say we will do everything in our power to grow the UK Agicultural & Fishing industry & make imports more costly to help our Ballance of payments.
That's not going to buy many votes is it.

In the past we have lived off the power of the French farming vote.
Under Brixit we will lose that & it's a risk for UK Agriculture. That we need to Ballance other positives against.
 
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arbel

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Location
Pembrokeshire
It was on the latter part of Eddy Mair or the news straight after it, can't remember which. But I am sure there are text versions in the press now.

Yes, thank you. I did watch his speech later last night. Much of what he said made sense and I did not form the impression that he was proposing a trade group to rival the EU. I will reserve judgement on that.
But, like many urbanites, Gove needs some education in how food arrives on his table. His failure to address the concerns of farmers and statements about cheaper food after Brexit disappointed me.
Many of you know my views as a committed Brexiter and I have been labelled a Protectionist. Food is too cheap in our shops, we may need to consider putting a modest tax on it in order to put in place an alternative to the current subsidies and I would most definitely put up barriers on food imports that we don't actually need, that harm the environment and are from countries that do not adhere to our own high standards. I am not anti trade, but we need to protect and nurture our home industries. Just like Germany and France do.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
The guy is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks France for example is going to let the UK carry-on with free trade in the EU without contributing to the cost of running it. Any free trade agreements with small or poor counties are there to help them from a social point of view, and they may not be too keen on a big fat cuckoo joining the club and damaging their relations with the EU.
 

Ashtree

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If I believe passionately in our agricultural industry and strive to ensure its continuance, then I am proud to be labelled as a protectionist. Us Brexiters are NOT all free traders.

And the other example of a successful, democratic, protectionist, non free trade economy is ............. ??????

And the OTHER side of protectionist policies is ............. ??????

And the net gain from being non free trading protectionist economy is ......... ??????


Take your time now. Don't rush this exam paper.
Read all the questions. Start with the easiest one and pen some solid facts.

Think for a minute about what that excellent economics lecturer taught you over the past three years.
 

romneymarsh

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Location
Romney Marsh
The guy is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks France for example is going to let the UK carry-on with free trade in the EU without contributing to the cost of running it. Any free trade agreements with small or poor counties are there to help them from a social point of view, and they may not be too keen on a big fat cuckoo joining the club and damaging their relations with the EU.

Wondering if Gove would bet his gilt edged pension on the outcome of this free access into the EU for Ag ?
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Have you noticed that the ukip loving man on here hasn't come back on here since gove made his statement yesterday,called me a lair when I said what the out side had said about importing food to bring down prices in the shops.tells you everything you need to now about how they work.
 

Stuart J

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
UK
So his reason for us to leave the EU is so that we have more money to spend on the NHS (since when has a Tory government spent more on the NHS, local councils etc?) and we would be able to support third world agriculture which lead to cheaper food in Britain world...... Does he know we have farming in Britain that produces first class food?

And last night Chris Grayling saying that an leave vote would give greater access to French Dairy products. That's got to be the message 'bring it in from anywhere as long as it's cheap'

When were these quotes made? Tryin to find a link to them online.
 

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