Grain/seed cleaning options

[YELROM]

What options are there for cleaning seed for our own use, we would be looking to clean 20 to 25 ton a year of wheat barley oats and beans.
We grow everything for a feed and although we aim to have clean crops sometimes end up with an odd wild oat or a bit of sterile brome in the sample which we don’t want to re-sow
Have been looking at these machines but the 10T machine looks a bit cheaply made and the 15T machine is a lot more money and 3 phase which we don’t have .

Grain cleaner ALS 10-15 t/h — Alistan Agro separators

Grain cleaner ALS-10 Productivity in pre-cleaning mode 15 t/h Productivityin cleaning mode 10 t/h Productivityin calibration mode 5 t/h The width of the separation chamber 780 mm Dimensions, mm(length x width x height) 1903 x 962 x 1952 Energy consumption 0,75 KW 220V 50HZ

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I remember a neighbour years ago running barley back through his combine again in the shed to thrash the barley horns off it, Would running the grain through the Combine again in the shed with a bit more wind likely get the brome and wild oats and bits of chaff off the sample or what other options is there to clean grain

 

[Gill Horse]

Batch drier with a skyvac maybe

 

[YELROM]

Batch drier with a skyvac maybe

We have an old Opico mobile drier but it doesn’t remove anything

 

[An Gof]

What options are there for cleaning seed for our own use, we would be looking to clean 20 to 25 ton a year of wheat barley oats and beans.
We grow everything for a feed and although we aim to have clean crops sometimes end up with an odd wild oat or a bit of sterile brome in the sample which we don’t want to re-sow
Have been looking at these machines but the 10T machine looks a bit cheaply made and the 15T machine is a lot more money and 3 phase which we don’t have .

Grain cleaner ALS 10-15 t/h — Alistan Agro separators

Grain cleaner ALS-10 Productivity in pre-cleaning mode 15 t/h Productivityin cleaning mode 10 t/h Productivityin calibration mode 5 t/h The width of the separation chamber 780 mm Dimensions, mm(length x width x height) 1903 x 962 x 1952 Energy consumption 0,75 KW 220V 50HZ

alistan-agro.com

I remember a neighbour years ago running barley back through his combine again in the shed to thrash the barley horns off it, Would running the grain through the Combine again in the shed with a bit more wind likely get the brome and wild oats and bits of chaff off the sample or what other options is there to clean grain

Just get a seed cleaning contractor in.

 

[grainboy]

Or a cheap dresser
Have 4 available £350 each

 

[Adeptandy]

Unless it’s really clean off the combine I don’t think a dresser will do enough unless it’s followed by a gravity table imho/experience

 

[bobk]

What options are there for cleaning seed for our own use, we would be looking to clean 20 to 25 ton a year of wheat barley oats and beans.
We grow everything for a feed and although we aim to have clean crops sometimes end up with an odd wild oat or a bit of sterile brome in the sample which we don’t want to re-sow
Have been looking at these machines but the 10T machine looks a bit cheaply made and the 15T machine is a lot more money and 3 phase which we don’t have .

Grain cleaner ALS 10-15 t/h — Alistan Agro separators

Grain cleaner ALS-10 Productivity in pre-cleaning mode 15 t/h Productivityin cleaning mode 10 t/h Productivityin calibration mode 5 t/h The width of the separation chamber 780 mm Dimensions, mm(length x width x height) 1903 x 962 x 1952 Energy consumption 0,75 KW 220V 50HZ

alistan-agro.com

I remember a neighbour years ago running barley back through his combine again in the shed to thrash the barley horns off it, Would running the grain through the Combine again in the shed with a bit more wind likely get the brome and wild oats and bits of chaff off the sample or what other options is there to clean grain

We get that in new seed

 

[Chae1]

We have an old Opico mobile drier but it doesn’t remove anything

We've always found a mobile drier a very effective way of cleaning seed.

Try running it through on a really windy day!

The light stuff will get blown away as it passes through top.

What are you trying to remove?

I've drilled undressed seed for past 3 years and never been near a cleaner. Just mobile drier.

Can bag it off drier too.

 

[Zebbedee]

Anybody any experience of a gyratory separator for cleaning grain or Osr??? @grainboy maybe?

 

[spanners and hammers]

Anybody any experience of a gyratory separator for cleaning grain or Osr??? @grainboy maybe?

do you mean a orbital sifter

 

[grainboy]

I only gyrate on a
good night out

 

[spanners and hammers]

Unless it’s really clean off the combine I don’t think a dresser will do enough unless it’s followed by a gravity table imho/experience

the machine in the picture is a air weigher so sorts by weight but not as accurate as a gravity table ,, the idea is the heavier bolder seeds are the better germ ones

 

[YELROM]

We've always found a mobile drier a very effective way of cleaning seed.

Try running it through on a really windy day!

The light stuff will get blown away as it passes through top.

What are you trying to remove?

I've drilled undressed seed for past 3 years and never been near a cleaner. Just mobile drier.

Can bag it off drier too.

OPICO 555XL 12 TON MOBILE GRAIN DRYER - G.M. Stephenson Ltd

OPICO 555XL 12 TON MOBILE GRAIN DRYER, YEAR 2011, PTO DRIVEN, GAS BURNER, HAS BEEN ON A 150 ACRE FARM FROM NEW! www.gmstephenson.co.uk

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Our drier is like the one in the link and the grain doesn't drop a couple of foot like newer driers it justs bubbles up at the top of the auger so doesn't remove much

 

[grainboy]

Seriously you really need a gravity separator,
But try and find a secondhand one,

 

[Chae1]

OPICO 555XL 12 TON MOBILE GRAIN DRYER - G.M. Stephenson Ltd

OPICO 555XL 12 TON MOBILE GRAIN DRYER, YEAR 2011, PTO DRIVEN, GAS BURNER, HAS BEEN ON A 150 ACRE FARM FROM NEW! www.gmstephenson.co.uk

www.gmstephenson.co.uk

Our drier is like the one in the link and the grain doesn't drop a couple of foot like newer driers it justs bubbles up at the top of the auger so doesn't remove much

See what you mean now. Those would be handier to transport.

 

[YELROM]

the machine in the picture is a air weigher so sorts by weight but not as accurate as a gravity table ,, the idea is the heavier bolder seeds are the better germ ones

So would a gravity table sort weed seeds and bits of straw out of grain
Do they also work on beans

 

[spanners and hammers]

gravity works by sorting by weight so lighter walks down the deck and the heavy go up i know that sounds wrong but thats the way they work ,, they will not work as well with a poor sample ie straw chaf so should be used as part of a process with other machines like a cleaner etc ,, they are a seperator /grader not a cleaner ...yes they work on beans / peas but the deck is different to cereals so it starts to get expensive

 

[yellow belly]

The first thing to do with the seed crop is rogue it for brome and wild oats after giving it a full level of herbicides
20 tonnes is less than 10 acres a couple of hours 3 or 4 times would be far cheaper than a cleaner

 

[eagleye]

we use an old turner no4 cleaner it removes chaff, broken grain etc does reasonable job with right screens and adjustment of aspiration. done beans wheat oats barley

 

[Hard Graft]

Got a turner no4 but Now looking for a gravity table and las that would be ideal set up sorted along with a seed treatment for biological seed treatments