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Grass Seed Drill

Discussion in 'Machinery' started by Ukjay, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud
    Hi,

    Thinking ahead for our pasture management, I am contemplating getting an old seed drill to overseed our current paddocks to try and improve next years output, so is there any model that would be good options to look at - obviously not serious money as it is only an experiment for me whilst learning.

    Are the MF30's able to do this kind of thing reliably - or are there better options?

    Kind regards

    Jay
     
  2. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    personally i think the best would be a spring tine harrow and a old acord air drill
     
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  3. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud
    Would that then rely on me going back over with a roller to push the seed into the soil (apologies if that sounds a dumb question)?
     
  4. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Yes but imo unless you have a "proper"overseeding rig you should be rolling it anyway after
     
  5. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    You need broadcasting or narrow row spacing with grass ideally. I have a Biodrill seeder unit blowing seed on in front of the rolls. The Biodrill is on an A frame so can also go on an old 6m pig tail cultivator with broadcaster outlets at the back followed by a harrow. Still needs rolling afterwards.
     
  6. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud
    So in essence, for a non commercial application, something like a fan jet then harrow (can you use chain harrows?) and roll is the method?
     
  7. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Fan Jet spinners have a limited spread width & pattern but for around 6m they should be fine. There are plenty of setups using these on harrow on the market. Clover seeds fly further than ryegrass. Yes, rolling afterwards is best. Cambridge is fine - you don't want to seal the top and get winter run off. You'll be heavy flat rolling in spring for stones, tillering & mole hills anyway.
     
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  8. Roll it regardless of what machine was used to drill it.
     
  9. Would an old moore unidrill be suitable? @Kevtherev will know
     
  10. milkloss

    milkloss Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    Be interested to know if this rings true with an aitchinson, I always thought the ‘tunnel’ was a selling point.
     
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  11. JET

    JET Member

    never bother rolling with an aitchinson seeds seem to come on well. although i do have a chain kit on the back
     
  12. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud
    I have to watch out for weight though (not mine) - as the MF is only around 90Hp, so kit would need to be kept fairly balanced to this.
     
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  13. dazza b

    dazza b Member

    Location:
    Lancaster
    Rolling not always advisable until established
     
  14. dazza b

    dazza b Member

    Location:
    Lancaster
    Well you could use a set of time harrows set aggressively then seed with vicon wagtail then roll could do all that with a 135 if necessary
     
  15. Kiwi Pete

    Kiwi Pete Member

    Location:
    Owaka, New Zealand
    If you haven't got heaps of acres a little old roller drill could be a handy piece of gear, as you can drag a covering harrow behind it and then just re roll it after to really firm seed in - so that's why I have a little crappy roller drill parked in my shed.

    It was horribly cheap for what it can do.
     
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  16. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud
    Ideally do not want to buy another set of harrows, as already have some chain ones.
     
  17. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud
    Will only be working on about 20 acres Pete, so got any pictures of what you are referring too, as I'm a numpty learning remember :whistle:
     
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  18. Kiwi Pete

    Kiwi Pete Member

    Location:
    Owaka, New Zealand
    I'll grab some pictures in the daylight for ya.
    Basically it's a lot like a cambridge roller but V rings, with a chain drive from the axle that drives a simple seed box (and fert box but that is stuffed, hence why I got it so cheap)
    The seed just falls down behind the roller but into the little valleys, so it is halfway to being covered already - even a light set of harrows upside down would cover it enough but another pass really firms it down. Grass likes a firm bed.

    I bid $18 (£10) and ended up owning it :)

    Obviously - it is a roller, so not much fun to move far, but for 20 acres it's both a roller and a drill, so it could be a cost effective thing to look at.
    It's also very basic, pull a rope to disengage and let it go to seed - nothing much can go wrong unless the chain comes off (or you don't put seed in it) :)
     
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  19. bobk

    bobk Member

    Location:
    stafford
    I have a old seed barrow , very accurate for grass seed but needs some tilth and rolling , but it's very cheap and light '
     
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  20. Old Taskers ferti spread were good for grass seeds, I used an MF 30 with all the pipes off so the seed flutters to the ground but all ways need a little tilth and a roll afterwards.
     

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