Grass seed for silage ground

[Twopokes]

Ideally we are looking at reseeding some of our silage block after this next cut,

Had a quick look at some grass seed suppliers online, preferably looking at Aber varieties, long term, late heading perennials.. We like to take 3 cuts and 1 or 2 grazings (dairy cows)...

Any suggestions on grass seed that has worked well much appreciated ? (most of ground is 700ft above S/L)

 

[neilo]

@Kevtherev

 

[carpenter1]

@Great In Grass

 

[neilo]

I’ve been sowing the Seedmark ‘permanent pasture’ mix recently. Mostly Aber varieties but not the ‘very very latest must haves’, so a bit cheaper. Very pleased with how they’re doing under grazing, with the occasional haylage cut.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Been told by a lot of drillers for what is worth that it works better the earlier aggressive Tetraploed Grasses . Late perennials can be slow to get away and find it hard to compete with the existing sward if your not burning off

 

[Twopokes]

Been told by a lot of drillers for what is worth that it works better the earlier aggressive Tetraploed Grasses . Late perennials can be slow to get away and find it hard to compete with the existing sward if your not burning off

The pasture will be sprayed off and ploughed before drilling. Any seed mixes you recommend?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The pasture will be sprayed off and ploughed before drilling. Any seed mixes you recommend?

I've sent you a PM

 

[deleted user 837354]

Ideally we are looking at reseeding some of our silage block after this next cut,

Had a quick look at some grass seed suppliers online, preferably looking at Aber varieties, long term, late heading perennials.. We like to take 3 cuts and 1 or 2 grazings (dairy cows)...

Any suggestions on grass seed that has worked well much appreciated ? (most of ground is 700ft above S/L)

How long do you intend the grass to live. What sort of land is it. Any perennial weed issues- will determine if it's suitable for clover or not.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Clover will not add a massive cost to the mix and most annual weeds can be taken out at first grazing .

 

[deleted user 837354]

Clover will not add a massive cost to the mix and most annual weeds can be taken out at first grazing .

Perennial.

Also, by the time annual weeds are large enough to graze, the damage is long done.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Ideally we are looking at reseeding some of our silage block after this next cut,

Had a quick look at some grass seed suppliers online, preferably looking at Aber varieties, long term, late heading perennials.. We like to take 3 cuts and 1 or 2 grazings (dairy cows)...

Any suggestions on grass seed that has worked well much appreciated ? (most of ground is 700ft above S/L)

yes, you've come to the right place for grasseed suppliers atm ...

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Perennial.

Also, by the time annual weeds are large enough to graze, the damage is long done.

We will have to respectfully disagree on that one , we've been here before , but if he has a,lot of docks he will never be completely rid of them

 

[deleted user 837354]

We will have to respectfully disagree on that one , we've been here before , but if he has a,lot of docks he will never be completely rid of them

I ain't on about the docks. And I know people who have got rid of those anyway, through rotations. It's not some kind of mythical dark art.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I ain't on about the docks. And I know people who have got rid of those anyway, through rotations. It's not some kind of mythical dark art.

Like I said I ain't here to argue we should all respect each others views . If one cant pass a opinion without someone being bitchy all the time then best do summat else with ones time , have a good evening

 

[deleted user 837354]

Like I said I ain't here to argue we should all respect each others views . If one cant pass a opinion without someone being bitchy all the time then best do summat else with ones time , have a good evening

The difference between you and I is that I'm just trying to help people. I have nothing to sell to anyone nor any is commercial gain derived from what I post anywhere.

We can agree to disagree if you wish, but I can tell you one thing with absolute certainty: grass is the one crop where any kind of issue- howsoever it arrives- has the potential to drive a farmer into low Earth orbit.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The difference between you and I is that I'm just trying to help people. I have nothing to sell to anyone nor any is commercial gain derived from what I post anywhere.

We can agree to disagree if you wish, but I can tell you one thing with absolute certainty: grass is the one crop where any kind of issue- howsoever it arrives- has the potential to drive a farmer into low Earth orbit.

What as selling grass seed got to do with how you manage a pasture after its sown. If sed salesman gave wrong advice he would be shooting himself in the ft . My only claim to fame is 40 years of intesive dairy on a family farm, seeding up to 200 acres a,year. Never using sprays but clever use of early grazing . I would admit to never having a dock problem and have no idea why . , but that's my last word on the subject. I'm fed up of all the bitching and snide comments on here lately .

 

[milkloss]

How you manage it between sowing and first cut will make a huge difference to the sward going on. For what you're wanting I would aim to graze for its first 'cut' next season and then maybe silage but don't go for a big first silage cut crop. My experience is that it allows the cutting grasses to dominate the sward for the rest of its life and those varieties aren't as persistent So you get left with a neither her nor there ley.

Although I also haven't had much luck establishing a late perennial mix here for years and they usually get wafted over with the combi in spring with some irg to get some grass going.

 

[deleted user 837354]

What as selling grass seed got to do with how you manage a pasture after its sown. If sed salesman gave wrong advice he would be shooting himself in the ft . My only claim to fame is 40 years of intesive dairy on a family farm, seeding up to 200 acres a,year. Never using sprays but clever use of early grazing . I would admit to never having a dock problem and have no idea why . , but that's my last word on the subject. I'm fed up of all the bitching and snide comments on here lately .

What as selling grass seed got to do with how you manage a pasture after its sown?

Give it time and you will find out!

It's a conversation that normally starts like: 'that grass seed you sold me, wasn't any good....'

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What as selling grass seed got to do with how you manage a pasture after its sown?

Give it time and you will find out!

It's a conversation that normally starts like: 'that grass seed you sold me, wasn't any good....'

Bang on , so more important if your selling something to give the correct advice . Or you soon wont be selling anything

 

[Twopokes]

How long do you intend the grass to live. What sort of land is it. Any perennial weed issues- will determine if it's suitable for clover or not.

Last ley we put in was 7yr + with clover.. Hope to give all New leys a clover safe post emergence spray from now on in hope to kill off any remaining weed.. Have some dock issues that I'd like gone. Land is quite shallow, with shale underlying.