"Great" Tractors

grumpy

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Location
Fife
i wouldnt, guess that makes me wrong does it? No, exactly, each to their own, i just dont like cabs with 1 door where you cant see bugger all, simple.
the sg2 set the standard for all cabs,1 door?i know of nobody who uses the right hand door of any tractor most are blocked by gear sticks or loader joysticks.the round front of an sg2 genius it deflects sound flat glass acts like a drum.the sekura cab was a good cab mind you.
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
The "hand brake" pto clutch improvement, cant remember anything else?

They were all rubbish.

same as the hand operated diff lock on a jd then, what was the point of that, or putting the heater blower unit in the top of the cab, clever when hot air rises, how do you keep your feet warm or de mist the windows? Cant see why the 50 series is held so highly, they were far from perfect in a lot of ways. Balancer shafts, hyd pump couplings, fuse boards in the dash, oh yeh and when the brakes wear out it fills the entire gearbox with shite which them messes up the steering, pto and power synchron packs. Great tractor indeed!
 

green giant

Member
Location
Northumberland
Well they may have had some problems, but no more than the opposition, turn them on a six pence, a tremendous note,tell you, if I could have kept a 40km 3650 on k or L reg hidden away in the back of the yard I would have a large smile on my face now!!
 
same as the hand operated diff lock on a jd then, what was the point of that, or putting the heater blower unit in the top of the cab, clever when hot air rises, how do you keep your feet warm or de mist the windows? Cant see why the 50 series is held so highly, they were far from perfect in a lot of ways. Balancer shafts, hyd pump couplings, fuse boards in the dash, oh yeh and when the brakes wear out it fills the entire gearbox with shite which them messes up the steering, pto and power synchron packs. Great tractor indeed!
hand difflock was good on steep hills,used to weld a lever on so you could hold it in so you could still brake or hold it in before electric switches and it just used to jump out when wheels went same speed
 

green giant

Member
Location
Northumberland
I dont mind deeres, but really cant see the fascination people have with the 50 series. If the SG2 was that good, why did deere go to a "conventional" cab design with the 6000s? SG2 is a marmite cab, you either love it or hate it, and i hated it lol
Your right,and I love marmite to, just something about the SG2.....
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
Peoples tastes vary, i spent the early years of my farming carreer driving nothing but deeres, some i liked, some i didnt. When i took over family farm i settled on browns as they were cheap to run, and my uncle was a dealer trained mechanic on them, i do prefer the 94s to the 90s though
 

Salopian_Will

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Shropshire
I don't what makes a great tractor manufacturer. Reliability, performance, longevity, price? A mix of them all I would imagine.

I would also suppose that for a specific tractor, range of tractors or manufacturer to be great they would have the ideal mix of the above criteria to sell enough to still be in business today. Which probably rules out David Brown - much to the disgust of our resident forum DB troll.:p
 
Location
Cheshire
same as the hand operated diff lock on a jd then, what was the point of that, or putting the heater blower unit in the top of the cab, clever when hot air rises, how do you keep your feet warm or de mist the windows? Cant see why the 50 series is held so highly, they were far from perfect in a lot of ways. Balancer shafts, hyd pump couplings, fuse boards in the dash, oh yeh and when the brakes wear out it fills the entire gearbox with shite which them messes up the steering, pto and power synchron packs. Great tractor indeed!

WTF Deeres are overrated too, not as much as your 1594.

956 and 1056 were the Daddy in the 1980's
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
who said it was overrated. It doesnt owe me anything, and it does everything i ask of it at minimal cost, and i could sell it tommorrow for 3k more than i paid for it. And i like driving it.
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
Must have had a bad one then. Get them in all makes, these work nearly every day and i cant think of last major problem i had, get a few niggly ones yes, but nothing what cant be fixed with a hammer and a set of spanners. Beats paying a dealer £40/hr to plug a laptop into it and tell you its a sensor fault
 
Location
Cheshire
Must have had a bad one then. Get them in all makes, these work nearly every day and i cant think of last major problem i had, get a few niggly ones yes, but nothing what cant be fixed with a hammer and a set of spanners. Beats paying a dealer £40/hr to plug a laptop into it and tell you its a sensor fault

We had 5 94s and 90s hydrashifts and syncros they were all a bit naff. IH were so much better.
 

The_Swede

Member
Arable Farmer
We had a 1594 for a couple of years, fair to say that i didn't like anything about it either. The Ford 8210 that followed whilst a bit cumbersome was a considerably better tractor in every respect but only IMHO of course! ;)
 
Our last two DBs were a 1390 and a 1394, but the 1394 was a dreadful thing and it was traded for a CIH 895 which has served us well for years. I figured they stopped caring about DB build quality when they announced the factory closure. I was wondering what the differencs were between the 90 and 94 series as apart from the turbo and a few detaills, they seemed pretty similar
 

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