Hardcore extraction for farm usage?

[steveR]

We have about 15ac of land near a river that is essentially sand and gravel, with a few cm of thin topsoil.

I have been doing some draining work over the last few days and had some big old holes out, which has given me a real view of the soil strata down to 2m. The excavator driver was amazed at the aggregate quantity Not surprisingly, there was a sand and gravel quarry 1km down river on the other side until a few years ago...

I've long thought about extracting this (tax free) for use on the farm for concreting purposes, but my understanding is that although it is OK to extract aggregate for use on the farm such as road stone, "processing" is not allowed. I take that to exclude concrete....

Anyone doing something like this and have some experience they could feed back. My Contractors have a home brew concrete mixer that is a ready mix drum on a chassis, and driven off teh tractor hydraulics that would go a treat! Just buy cement in big bags and Bob's me Uncle...

 

[Skintagain]

We have about 15ac of land near a river that is essentially sand and gravel, with a few cm of thin topsoil.

I have been doing some draining work over the last few days and had some big old holes out, which has given me a real view of the soil strata down to 2m. The excavator driver was amazed at the aggregate quantity Not surprisingly, there was a sand and gravel quarry 1km down river on the other side until a few years ago...

I've long thought about extracting this (tax free) for use on the farm for concreting purposes, but my understanding is that although it is OK to extract aggregate for use on the farm such as road stone, "processing" is not allowed. I take that to exclude concrete....

Anyone doing something like this and have some experience they could feed back. My Contractors have a home brew concrete mixer that is a ready mix drum on a chassis, and driven off teh tractor hydraulics that would go a treat! Just buy cement in big bags and Bob's me Uncle...

I think you have got everyone’s dream. Delete this thread and crack on

 

[Lakesdigger]

you were never here.

 

[Steevo]

If you extract the stone....set it aside.....and then a bit later you just use a pile of stone in the yard to make some concrete.

Two separate operations.

Simples!

 

[Skintagain]

new rival for Moore concrete

 

[steveR]

If you extract the stone....set it aside.....and then a bit later you just use a pile of stone in the yard to make some concrete.

Two separate operations.

Simples!

Nice, I like it!! Maybe time to buy that dump trailer...

 

[steveR]

Nice, I like it!! Maybe time to buy that dump trailer...

And an excavator!

 

[Hesstondriver]

Spend less time asking , more time digging.

 

[roscoe erf]

If you ever find that leaking pipe let us know

 

[Y Fan Wen]

A farmer nearby has a sand and gravel farm with peat filled hollows.
When he decided to totally renew the yard and buildings he and his son converted a s/h readymix to pto towed and the same with a riddle. I wouldn't like to guess how many tons they put through them. Unsuitable sizes and dirt were spread on the peat hollows to firm them up.
Occasional large boulders were unearthed and any that were a suitable shape the son used as ornamental (and practical) gateposts. The ones used for roadside gateways are a fitting addition to the landscape.

 

[ollie989898]

If anyone complains it's eco-friendly.

 

[Nearly]

jfdi
Just Flipping Dig It

 

[Pebd99]

Dig it up and lay it 6 feet deep as a road somewhere but really it’s storage then dig it up and it’s suddenly recycled and exempt from taxes. Not a new trick.

 

[steveR]

Dig it up and lay it 6 feet deep as a road somewhere but really it’s storage then dig it up and it’s suddenly recycled and exempt from taxes. Not a new trick.

Cannot recall the regs now, do you have to pay mineral tax for self usage.... and if so, who weighs it anyway.....? ;-)

 

[onthehoof]

You're just digging a pond for wildlife aren't you,?

 

[Werzle]

EA will be all over you , digging nr rivers is a definite no no these days

 

[steveR]

EA will be all over you , digging nr rivers is a definite no no these days

3-400m away...

Did some work a couple of years ago and found EA helpful, ONCE, I had the local CSF person onside and justified the work.

 

[db9go]

3-400m away...

Did some work a couple of years ago and found EA helpful, ONCE, I had the local CSF person onside and justified the work.

Some years ago we found some sand and gravel on some land we own and dug several loads out and mixed it but we could not get it to set
We were told it had to be wash to make it set so we never used any again

 

[steveR]

Some years ago we found some sand and gravel on some land we own and dug several loads out and mixed it but we could not get it to set
We were told it had to be wash to make it set so we never used any again

Very interesting... Not a saline area are you?

I'll ask my Lad and see what he says.

 

[db9go]

Very interesting... Not a saline area are you?

I'll ask my Lad and see what he says.

In the end sand and gravel is only part of the cost so we went back to ready mix but we did use some to blind the base