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Tamar

Member
She’s asking about land to rent for horses. If anyone on here is renting land out through the winter for sheep or cows

This is England............ not sure anyone rents out land to graze cows in the winter ! Probably the same reason why you wouldn't want a galloping horse on your fields in the winter.

............but there again, some farmers bring their cattle into a shed as it's too wet and then let the hunt run all over it !
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
She’s asking about land to rent for horses. If anyone on here is renting land out through the winter for sheep or cows surely rather than sneering at her the question should be will you pay more to graze your horses than the people grazing sheep or cattle. It’s a fair question she is asking.
Would it be fair to ask if it’s been a while since you walked a stocked paddock in the UK in December?
There are farms on free draining gravel that can outwinter stock really well, but they’re a small proportion.
For my sins I spend Spring fixing ruined horse paddocks, summer getting them tip top, and Winter watching them get puddled to a deep shitty mire by too many hooves.
I wouldn’t have them on the place if it wasn’t for Mrs PSQ.
 

Wellytrack

Member
That winter of 1962-63, i was about 3, people were alot "tougher", knew no different? no cental heating, most had coal fires, no double glazing, many had no cars, lucky to have a motorcycle or bike for transport? that picture of those tractors in the snow, aca 1962-63, with no cab? not alone a heated cab? but just look at the pictures of the people, dont they look fit, not like our present "crowd"?

TF you rambling about.Why was there no tractors with Cabs? Houses bereft of double glazing and central heating?

Hmmm, let me ponder that for a minute 🤔🤔🤔

Maybe it was something to do with it being 60 years ago?

Given the option everyone would rather live better.

Still, living in the 1960’s seems to be your happy place. What’s TFF like on the old slate and chalk?
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
This is England............ not sure anyone rents out land to graze cows in the winter ! Probably the same reason why you wouldn't want a galloping horse on your fields in the winter.

............but there again, some farmers bring their cattle into a shed as it's too wet and then let the hunt run all over it !
I had sheep on rye stubble in UK all last winter. They did a good job but the money I got for it wasn’t a great amount . If someone had wanted to put a few horses on it twenty quid a week on it I’d have been happier. My point is just explain in a polite manner to someone who obviously doesn’t know much about livestock husbandry.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
This is England............ not sure anyone rents out land to graze cows in the winter ! Probably the same reason why you wouldn't want a galloping horse on your fields in the winter.

............but there again, some farmers bring their cattle into a shed as it's too wet and then let the hunt run all over it !
She posted in Cornwall not England, and you call yourself Tamar😲😉
 

Tamar

Member
I had sheep on rye stubble in UK all last winter. They did a good job but the money I got for it wasn’t a great amount . If someone had wanted to put a few horses on it twenty quid a week on it I’d have been happier. My point is just explain in a polite manner to someone who obviously doesn’t know much about livestock husbandry.


Sheep make considerably less mess than cows............. but perhaps you missed an opportunity


She posted in Cornwall not England, and you call yourself Tamar😲😉

We are not allowed to say that word................ I've always been told to stay the right side of the river and not venture to the dark side !
 
the speed with which horses degrade pasture, is nearly unbelievable.

the time it takes to get it back to a sensible pasture, is unbelievable as well.

where we had the paddocks, 12/14 years later, still will fill up with docks and buttercups, if grass is stressed.
the 'main' area, has been cropped every year, a mix of hybrid rye/maize, or wheat. Finally put down last autumn to IRG, grass stressed this year, full of fecking docks. The other bit, not so intense, docks and b-cups.

both have had glyphosate twice, the main bit, herbicides pretty well every year, and judged as 'sorted', till this years mini drought. The other has been grass, red clover and maize.

l really am not sure anybody can convince me, that horses don't have a peculiar digestive system, that converts grass to weed seeds.

both pieces you can see exactly where horse paddocks finished, and 'normal' field starts, by the dock density. And that's 12/14 years after they went.

I've cleaned up thousands of acres of pretty nasty permanent or long term grass with wheat crops. I'd suggest something isn't being done properly if you're ending up with that in short order.

Maize is not ideal in this respect as so much trash grows under it, particularly where people are convinced 'you don't need' pre-emergence chemistry. Clover is even worse as there is no worthwhile chemistry for it and there hasn't been for years.

Half the battle is establishing a worthwhile sward of grass that means the weeds don't get a chance to get established in it.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
I've cleaned up thousands of acres of pretty nasty permanent or long term grass with wheat crops. I'd suggest something isn't being done properly if you're ending up with that in short order.

Maize is not ideal in this respect as so much trash grows under it, particularly where people are convinced 'you don't need' pre-emergence chemistry. Clover is even worse as there is no worthwhile chemistry for it and there hasn't been for years.

Half the battle is establishing a worthwhile sward of grass that means the weeds don't get a chance to get established in it.
l don't think some of your old comrades from Sherborne, would agree with that. First year of maize had pre, and post. And any 'problem' was sprayed.

the first piece, thought we had succeeded, till the IRG slowed down in the summer, then woosh, fecking things, not ploughed for 6 yrs either. Back into maize come spring, and the docks didn't seed either, multi-cut silage.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Sheep make considerably less mess than cows............. but perhaps you missed an opportunity




We are not allowed to say that word................ I've always been told to stay the right side of the river and not venture to the dark side !
We're taught from a young age that only disappointment awaits over the Tamar🤣
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
So how much rent would they have to pay to entertain letting them put their horses on the field? There's got to be a realistic figure that might be tempting.

Considering how many are willing to feck their ground up for maize or spuds, I suppose a figure similar to the rents those two enterprises pay would be a starting point?

Although you don't see many on the harvest gangs wearing Jodphurs (thankfully)... :censored:
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Best you stay over your fudging side then.

We don't want the likes of you lot, that can't even put the cream and jam on your scones the correct way, over on our side.
The Queen would turn in her grave, she knew the proper way to do jam and cream.
Saying that many of the Royals can talk in Cornish , so perhaps we're their favourites 🤔🤣
 

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