Headlands first or last

[agricontract]

This year we claydon drilled headlands first but 2 preveusly drilled them last and they look brilliant this year but it was dry what does every one else do with which drill

 

[Rob Holmes]

After Jeff and Frank's advice i now drill my headlands first with the Claydon

 

[Tractor Boy]

Always drill them first! Even if it's damp and you can see your headland turns, it will have done a better job! If you drill them last you squeeze all the tilth and air out whilst doing the field and then end up slotting the headlands with no tilth to cover the seed.

 

[JD6920s]

First is best, especially if chopping the straw, as if you sow middle first you'll drag some straw to the end every time and drop it where you lift out, and that's a nightmare on your last time round the headland blocking up under the drill!

 

[Clive]

Last here although i think it makes little difference

 

[Badshot]

Not a claydon, but I do mine last, with rtk auto steer there is no shunting about so the headland is as good as the middle, if I done it first there would be wheelings. The image below is a goodle earth image showing a field with the headland drilled first with a bertini drill, pretty pattern round it, but probably not too good for yield.

 

[agricontract]

Are u not tempted to do them first I think it looks a bit bare tbh

 

[Badshot]

Are u not tempted to do them first I think it looks a bit bare tbh

That was the result of doing them first, not mine I might add.

 

[agricontract]

Oh right was it a wet time

 

[Badshot]

2007 we had a tornado go through right at the start of osr harvest, it made the ground pretty wet and it never really dried out properly, so yes it was a bit soft underfoot. If it's dry on heavy ground first is fine with a disc drill, but if wet/soft underfoot last will be better I think. Also if it's catchy weather doing them first can leave you having to do another false headland if you get caught out part way through.

 

[Mr Mole]

Always drilled headlands last when I had a crawler now I have a wheeled tractor I do some and some depends on soil conditions,if it's a known wet headland I now drill double width so I don't run on it again when drilling.

 

[yellow belly]

I usually do them first

if the drill will not drill the wheeled headland deep enough then first will be the best option

a true notill drill will drill through wheelings and achieve proper depth in variable density soil as does a cultivater drill which loosens the seed bed that is wheeld on

 

[Niels]

Very dependable on the drill. With the Claydon ALWAYS do them first. The tractor runs on the banks which aren't cultivated so you don't get very deep wheelings. You do get an even seed placement. If I was running a Rapid or similar drill with tyre packer I'd rather do them last. If your using a 750A like Clive it probably matters very little I reckon.

 

[mikep]

With a disc drill last is best as most of the straw heaps are where turning and consolidation helps cut through them. Also very easy to flatten this soil so hate driving over drilled ground and last gives a bit of lift.

 

[nick channer]

Drill them first
You will get trash etc build up on headlands if u do them first and as said if bit damp will compact when turning then cut after.
We made mistake this yr of chopping some straw!
Never again
Don't care what value it puts back in ground if conditions not right will cause untold problems.
We had to rake fields 3 times after drillin to try level the chopped straw.
Admittedly perhaps should been drilled 3 weeks earlier when dry but as puttin barley behind wheat and drillin 2 nd wheats waited longer.
Land drilled perfectly just keeps blocking and there would been serious mess on headlands if drilled last.
Crossed the field at angle which stopped most blocking but still left heaps wet chopped straw.
Didn't get to rake all of it behind combine but doesn't seem to make diff if raked or not.
Out new local Claydon dealer was out yesterday pricing up 15 m rake!!
Good thing with new Claydon dealers are they'll take summin diff in px like a weaving rake!!

 

[mikep]

Drill them first
You will get trash etc build up on headlands if u do them first and as said if bit damp will compact when turning then cut after.
We made mistake this yr of chopping some straw!
Never again
Don't care what value it puts back in ground if conditions not right will cause untold problems.
We had to rake fields 3 times after drillin to try level the chopped straw.
Admittedly perhaps should been drilled 3 weeks earlier when dry but as puttin barley behind wheat and drillin 2 nd wheats waited longer.
Land drilled perfectly just keeps blocking and there would been serious mess on headlands if drilled last.
Crossed the field at angle which stopped most blocking but still left heaps wet chopped straw.
Didn't get to rake all of it behind combine but doesn't seem to make diff if raked or not.
Out new local Claydon dealer was out yesterday pricing up 15 m rake!!
Good thing with new Claydon dealers are they'll take summin diff in px like a weaving rake!!

I suppose thats the difference between a tine and disc drill.