hello from wasted years

Ok I'm not really a DDer more of a discer and seed driller. Any way I fancy going from discing and using a MF30 disc drill to sow to proper DD in the autumn to establish winter barley. My first question is simple, what is the diference between say a Moore with a disc that sows the seed followed by a press wheel and a Kuhn SD that has a slot opening disc followed by the sowing disc and press wheel? I farm very light sandy soil but we are steep and stoney so whatever I try has to be able to handle stones in the same way the MF30 can.
 
We had a MF 30, tried a Moore and eventually bought a Kuhn SD4000 and there is not a hell of a lot of difference between any of them.. My advice would be stay with the MF 30 as all the others will cost you money and I can assure you will not make your business more profitable. There is nothing more to be gained from using a Flexitine, some form of harrow, an MF 30 disc drill and a set of Cambridge rolls... We did it for years and looking back at our crop records achieved some of highest yields (80's/90's) Why I was conned into spending money on direct-drills and other non-essential kit I do not know...:cautious:
 

DrWazzock

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Location
Lincolnshire
We still have a MF30 and we bought a unidrill. Basic Moore Unidrill.
Cheap and cheerful, does the job and copes with trash and hard ground. On sand you will be laughing but don't bother if there are masses of chopped cereal straw.

No need to spend more than 4 thousand.

The biggest downfall of the MF30 was lack of consolidation and we had manganese problems. uni drill steam rollers the seed in so no problems there.
 
Thanks for the feedback. What I want to do is drill direct in the autumn purely to save time, up here in Cumbria running out of time especially in a late harvest year like this one is the enemy.Any field drilled in the autumn will have been cultivated in the spring so working it again seems daft( our rotation is SB,WB,stubble turnips,SB again). There are a few people up here using shallow tillage but no one DDing as far as I know.
 
We had a MF 30, tried a Moore and eventually bought a Kuhn SD4000 and there is not a hell of a lot of difference between any of them.. My advice would be stay with the MF 30 as all the others will cost you money and I can assure you will not make your business more profitable. There is nothing more to be gained from using a Flexitine, some form of harrow, an MF 30 disc drill and a set of Cambridge rolls... We did it for years and looking back at our crop records achieved some of highest yields (80's/90's) Why I was conned into spending money on direct-drills and other non-essential kit I do not know...:cautious:
But the Moore and the Kuhn both exert pressure on the sowing disc don't they? The 30 has a spring to help keep the disc down and allow float but you can't really hold it down with any degree of pressure,am I right?
 

Dan Powell

Member
Location
Shropshire
The Kuhn SD is a heavy drill and it takes some pulling up steep hills. We just about manage with 130 hp on a 3 metre. Think the Moore is lighter. Would think either will do the job on sand.
 

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