Help trouble with the 484.

[Shropshire Lass]

Hello guys.
Wandered if you tractor buffs might be able to shed some light?
The International 484 has been working fine, it's been working on the straw chopper and feeder bucket etc. My hubby was driving it across the yard and just caught the trailer hitch with the front left wheel of the tractor. So it had a bit of a joult! As soon as this happened, as he reversed to hitch up the trailer its lift arms wouldn't work along with the spool valve and its hydraulics wouldn't operate! Hubby drove it into the nearby shed and it started to bind up, it was all the tractor could manage moving 15m. The power steering never failed and it starts up fine.
We have had to move it by lifting the rear end up on the pallet tynes of the Manitou and I steered it around to the shed. The rear wheels would not turn, she's bound up tight.
Any ideas of what the problem might be????
Cheers.

 

[roscoe erf]

may sound obvious but has it knocked on the handbrake somehow are the brakes binding just a shoot in the dark

 

[Shropshire Lass]

Will double check, anything is worth a shot. We need it working, lost with it!
Cheers.

 

[Dave W]

Assume it's 2wd?

 

[Shropshire Lass]

may sound obvious but has it knocked on the handbrake somehow are the brakes binding just a shoot in the dark

Assume it's 2wd?

Right had a double check and the hand brake is off. and yes it is a 2WD.

 

[McCman]

Had a 454 once lock up on rear end and loose the arms the donkeys d##k as we call it had fallen out and jammed up ontop of the diff also bent all internal linkages so we ended up fitting a s/h lift cover. (It's the big rod that pushes on the lift piston and the rock shaft to lift the arms )

 

[Dave W]

It almost sounds as if a lump of metal has bounced up from the bottom of the gearbox and got lodged somewhere or something equally obscure.

I'd try jacking the back up and see if one or both the back wheels are locked. May give you an indication which area the problem is.

 

[McCman]

It almost sounds as if a lump of metal has bounced up from the bottom of the gearbox and got lodged somewhere or something equally obscure.

I'd try jacking the back up and see if one or both the back wheels are locked. May give you an indication which area the problem is.

If u Jack it up n turn one wheel both wheels should turn in oppersite directions to each other but it won't be turning the diff its self it will just spin the diff gears .

To spin the diff Ull need to turn both wheels the same way with the transmission in neutral

 

[Shropshire Lass]

Right, I shall get hubby on to it! Thanks everyone I knew we would get some help from you!

 

[Hurdle bunter]

Had a 454 once lock up on rear end and loose the arms the donkeys d##k as we call it had fallen out and jammed up ontop of the diff also bent all internal linkages so we ended up fitting a s/h lift cover. (It's the big rod that pushes on the lift piston and the rock shaft to lift the arms )

I'm liking the donkeys todger theory! just been and tried to lift the Lift arms by hand and they are solid, looks like I'd better get the top cover off and see what I've bust!

 

[Shropshire Lass]

I'm liking the donkeys todger theory! just been and tried to lift the Lift arms by hand and they are solid, looks like I'd better get the top cover off and see what I've bust!

Typical you! Thinking of a todger first!!!

 

[McCman]

If u take the little plate off with the breather on it below the pto cross shaft u may see a little more without a major strip down

 

[grumpy]

Typical you! Thinking of a todger first!!!

he no think of you first?

 

[Shropshire Lass]

He never thinks of me first! Not even a valentines card etc. Miserable sh!t!

 

[grumpy]

If u take the little plate off with the breather on it below the pto cross shaft u may see a little more without a major strip down[/quote

you trying to stoke the fire?

 

[grumpy]

He never thinks of me first! Not even a valentines card etc. Miserable sh!t!

we should talk

 

[Shropshire Lass]

I don't talk to strange men. I've been told you are a letcherous swine!

 

[grumpy]

I don't talk to strange men. I've been told you are a letcherous swine!

and you were told correct and i am rather odd,but that aside im a hoot and reckon you are as lovely as im bonkers.

 

[Hurdle bunter]

If u take the little plate off with the breather on it below the pto cross shaft u may see a little more without a major strip down

Which sides that on?

 

[Shropshire Lass]

Well thank you Grumpy! There are many people that are a bit odd, but I think it makes us all normal!