Hereford Cattle Wanted

1996Farmer

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Mixed Farmer
Hi,

As the title suggests, I'm looking for some pedigree Hereford Cattle, preferably Cow and Calf pairs but I would also consider heifers, to start a herd with.

Herefords from the Traditional/Original Population bloodlines would be ideal but are hard to find.

They would have to be TB4.

Thank you

J
 

serf

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Location
warwickshire
Hi,

As the title suggests, I'm looking for some pedigree Hereford Cattle, preferably Cow and Calf pairs but I would also consider heifers, to start a herd with.

Herefords from the Traditional/Original Population bloodlines would be ideal but are hard to find.

They would have to be TB4.

Thank you

J
Have you thought about going Her X Friesian,
( if you can find some )
bit more milk and bit more genetics in the gene pool .
 

1996Farmer

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Mixed Farmer
We currently have Friesian X calfs but I was looking at going down the pedigree route for a few reasons, I wanted to make better use of herbal leys in the arable rotation and have the ability to outwinter some of the stock.

It's always going to be a small herd so the ability to sell some pedigree stock as well as locally to butchers, beef boxes, restaurants, etc is my goal.

What is the thought regarding a bit more milk, do Herefords struggle in this regard?
 

serf

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Location
warwickshire
We currently have Friesian X calfs but I was looking at going down the pedigree route for a few reasons, I wanted to make better use of herbal leys in the arable rotation and have the ability to outwinter some of the stock.

It's always going to be a small herd so the ability to sell some pedigree stock as well as locally to butchers, beef boxes, restaurants, etc is my goal.

What is the thought regarding a bit more milk, do Herefords struggle in this regard?
@Hilly is the one to ask on pure Herefords , he probably finds there's enough milk for the job but I find milk tends to drop off the further you go into beef breed away from the dairy influence ,
got the prob with pure lims ,
Going back to the start now again with what started with 30 yr ago - HerX Fri
heifers

Obv to much milk can be as bad as not enough but if they calve indoors on poor fodder calf should be well away at turnout to take the milk from spring grass
 
I have a mate with pedigree Herefords. He has some fairly high fliers. Plenty of them don't have enough milk to do their own calves sufficiently well. He's often after Jerseys to use as recips,as they calve naturally AND have enough milk to rear the calf. A bit of an indictment on where the Hereford has gone to, in my opinion 🤔.
 
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serf

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Location
warwickshire
I have a mate with pedigree Herefords. He has some fairly high fliers. Plenty of them don't have enough milk to do their own calves sufficiently well. He's often after Jerseys to use as recips,as they calve naturally AND have enough milk to rear the calf. A bit of an indictment on where the Hereford has gone to, in my opinion 🤔.
Recon your better spreading the gene pool anyway for vigour ,
good quality Pure bred Conti bull over 50/50 Dam and still have calves with a good stamp on them from bull and plenty of milk to get them away .
 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ayrshire
We currently have Friesian X calfs but I was looking at going down the pedigree route for a few reasons, I wanted to make better use of herbal leys in the arable rotation and have the ability to outwinter some of the stock.

It's always going to be a small herd so the ability to sell some pedigree stock as well as locally to butchers, beef boxes, restaurants, etc is my goal.

What is the thought regarding a bit more milk, do Herefords struggle in this regard?
Traditional (OP) Herefords are ideal for what you want by the sound of things. We only had one that struggled with milk - she went to the abattoir- shame because she was beautiful. Some heifers don’t make a great job of their first calves but do a great deal better with their second and third. Some have oodles of milk and the odd one has too much! Below is a first calver with 7 month old calf.
Many Pasture for Life producers use them, if you’re interested in that.
 

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1996Farmer

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Mixed Farmer
Traditional (OP) Herefords are ideal for what you want by the sound of things. We only had one that struggled with milk - she went to the abattoir- shame because she was beautiful. Some heifers don’t make a great job of their first calves but do a great deal better with their second and third. Some have oodles of milk and the odd one has too much! Below is a first calver with 7 month old calf.
Many Pasture for Life producers use them, if you’re interested in that.
Lovely-looking cattle.

I'm based in Suffolk. I'm willing to travel as I think once you want a fairly rare breed the clue is in the name, they are rare, so unlikely to be on your doorstep! The only requisite is the TB4 area.
 

Hampton

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Location
Shropshire
Lovely-looking cattle.

I'm based in Suffolk. I'm willing to travel as I think once you want a fairly rare breed the clue is in the name, they are rare, so unlikely to be on your doorstep! The only requisite is the TB4 area.
Or a farm in a tb1 or tb0.5 area that’s been clear for 6 years?
 

1996Farmer

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Mixed Farmer
Or a farm in a tb1 or tb0.5 area that’s been clear for 6 years?
From a considerably less experienced point of view than a lot of members on here, the testing does seem a farce, as in a TB4 area you have entire herds that are never tested. How never being tested ensures you are clear I don't know.
However I wouldn't want to be the one that brought cattle in from a more restricted area, got it wrong, and forced all my neighbours to be tested as well. I can see that making me very unpopular.
 

glow worm

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Location
cornwall
From a considerably less experienced point of view than a lot of members on here, the testing does seem a farce, as in a TB4 area you have entire herds that are never tested. How never being tested ensures you are clear I don't know.
However I wouldn't want to be the one that brought cattle in from a more restricted area, got it wrong, and forced all my neighbours to be tested as well. I can see that making me very unpopular.
Would be interested to know how people get on buying stock from Tb4 areas and moving them into more frequently tested areas. We've been really lucky avoiding tb, so far!, for many years but when we did have it, it was always in bought in stock. We can to the conclusion, rightly or wrongly that our home bred herd had built up a bit of imunity to the local strain of tb that cows from a different area hadn't been exposed to.
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
Lovely-looking cattle.

I'm based in Suffolk. I'm willing to travel as I think once you want a fairly rare breed the clue is in the name, they are rare, so unlikely to be on your doorstep! The only requisite is the TB4 area.
Go and talk with Philip Vincent Pulham Herefords between Diss and Norwich. Not traditional type but he runs horned and polled genetics and very well thought of
 

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