I've heard nothing but good things really about the old genesis series there's still a lot around strong machines!
Am i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?
There is cheaper, but whatever you do don't buy Massey 87 series or valtra s.That's what I am worried about, I was originally looking at newholand t8050's as they seem pretty bomb proof maybe before this came out but there's none about anywhere, the only fendts I can find are over in Germany or France ect I would be very worried about importing for language barrier ect and end up buying a lemon is there such a thing as cheap hp at about 350 hp lol?
Read my earlier post about a 716. Condition and how it’s been driven/looked after most important. Find out if and when the gearbox was done. Electrics are fairly reliable but I have had to change a whole armrest. If the rubber fuel lines are perished it can be a sod to get going.
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Love it. A challenger 55 is an 8970 on tracks . They share a cab and a gearbox/back-end. I’d agree with the jd and the case but this side of the pond the 70 series are quite rare now…they weren’t without their issues…probably too many big ploughs being hung off them. Challenger 35 or 45 the ones to have; get a good one for 25k. But nowhere near your 350hp. You’d have to go to a 75/85/95 flat track which aren’t as handy. Same money though and probably more reliable. Older quadtrac getting cheap now if you have nice big fields/sheds.personally, if I was to buy a high hour FWA linkage tractor in the 250 hp range, my only choice would be a Genesis, a Case 7140 or a JD 8400. All bullet proof tractors that will easily run to over 10,000 hrs here without needing a great deal of love or attention
or a Cat 55 ( basically a Genesis on tracks & a Cat engine ) if I wanted tracks
All of that would put me right off, it will have had sea salt in air down your way I guess? Rust is a sod for working through in later life.
Have you touched the Vaio's on either of your"s out of interest?
NoAm i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?
i hear a lot if engine and vario horror stories but im sure newholland have many too high hourd fendts seem to handle a lot of hours very well they dont look worn.
really that bad? are they not as good as the 80 serie before them?
I have been debating if I should write this post or nor as it breaks my "Dont put any financial stuff on TFF" rule. But after numerous high hour tractor threads I find these ACTUAL numbers fascinating.
I bought a 2007 Fendt 716 in May 2016. From my local dealer who had previously done the gearbox, I know the previous owner and it had been looked after but worked hard. It spends between 3 and 4 hours every day feeding my cows with a 22 cube diet feeder and does some general running around, muck trailers and similar jobs. We have done most of the servicing with the dealer doing some when we are busy and all of the repairs. It had a £4k engine rebuild because of a sticky valve and 1 front tyre (dont ask ).
Cost £28000
Hours at purchase 11273
Hours now 20800 (no its not a dodgy clock)
Worked hours while owned 9527
So 1587 hours/year
Total cost of all repairs £18587
I think realistically I might get £15K for it so
repairs + Depreciation = £31587
or £5265/yr
or £3.31/hr
Now the question is what to do now. I don't know but its time to change it. The cost of repairs has increased substantially and as you can see buying a high hour machine does rely on a deal of luck, the gearbox could go this morning then I would have to put £10k to those costs. If I stick with Fendt I can find plenty of 8 or 9 thousand hour tractors, probably a 700, not really worried about horse power but i wouldn't buy without knowing the back round which limits which to look at. Certainly nothing from a contractor.
New is looking competitive a 5yr 5000 hour warranty + servicing is cheaper than the repair bill I've had over 6 years, depreciation isn't. I doubt I will ever own a tractor with lower depreciation as I am definitely going to have to spend more than £28k. I am not fussed about make as we have 3 different colours here already. We will have to see, I have some prices and had some suggestions, the only almost certainty is that it will be a vario type as they are so much better on a feeder.
Tin hat on now
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That's what I am worried about, I was originally looking at newholand t8050's as they seem pretty bomb proof maybe before this came out but there's none about anywhere, the only fendts I can find are over in Germany or France ect I would be very worried about importing for language barrier ect and end up buying a lemon is there such a thing as cheap hp at about 350 hp lol?Quoting myself from another recent thread that’s probably worth a read @oli. Coincidentally I was talking with somebody today who has a Fendt with more hours than mine. History and how it was driven are more of important than anything. Problem with a 936 is when something breaks it will definitely be expensive
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