high houred fendt

oli

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Am i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Am i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?

Can’t comment on the Fendt, but being an owner of a T8 with about 9000 hrs on it since new, I certainly wouldn’t consider buying one with over 10k on it.
In my opinion, I should have turned mine over at 5k . . . It’s all gone downhill since then
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
really that bad? are they not as good as the 80 serie before them?

never had anything to do with the 80 series NH & tbh, I’ve never even seen one.
The T8 replaced an NH 8970 Genesis, which was a brilliant tractor that I should have just rebuilt, instead of spending $300K on the T8

I’m coming from a background of Steigers, Versatile, Case & JD where you just assume 10,000 hrs + is normal . . .
 

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Fendt tractors dont get as "slack" with high hours as other brands. Imo there the only tractor thats built to stick 50k whereas most of the others feel like theyr designed for 40k with 50k added on as an after thought
 
depends entirely on...

Service history, namely were the fluids changed regularly over those hours.
Is everything working faultlessly after giving it a good workout, ideally pulling an implement in the field
General condition of the machine. Often a well presented and tidy machine has been looked after better than one that is in average condition.
If you can talk to the driver over those hours it will be quite valuable, as you will soon gauge by talking to him what sort of person he is and how likely he is to of looked after it. If it is sitting in a dealership he may be more willing to tell you of any potential problems

If it is a dealership machine, make sure you get some kind of comprehensive (defined) warranty
If you know a Fendt mechanic, or worst case an experienced operator taking them along may prove useful
 

Smith31

Member
Look at the ownership history, if it's been owner driven the chances are it will be fine, however if it's had 10 snapchat jockeys each harvest, even if its done 5k hours it will most likely have issues.
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
depends entirely on...

Service history, namely were the fluids changed regularly over those hours.
Is everything working faultlessly after giving it a good workout, ideally pulling an implement in the field
General condition of the machine. Often a well presented and tidy machine has been looked after better than one that is in average condition.
If you can talk to the driver over those hours it will be quite valuable, as you will soon gauge by talking to him what sort of person he is and how likely he is to of looked after it. If it is sitting in a dealership he may be more willing to tell you of any potential problems

If it is a dealership machine, make sure you get some kind of comprehensive (defined) warranty
If you know a Fendt mechanic, or worst case an experienced operator taking them along may prove useful

maybe . . .

but in the case of my T8 is has nothing to do with fluid changes or major mechanical issues. Just constant small annoying stuff that is expensive to find / repair & which just about makes the tractor unliveable. . .
 

Boysground

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
I have been debating if I should write this post or nor as it breaks my "Dont put any financial stuff on TFF" rule. But after numerous high hour tractor threads I find these ACTUAL numbers fascinating.

I bought a 2007 Fendt 716 in May 2016. From my local dealer who had previously done the gearbox, I know the previous owner and it had been looked after but worked hard. It spends between 3 and 4 hours every day feeding my cows with a 22 cube diet feeder and does some general running around, muck trailers and similar jobs. We have done most of the servicing with the dealer doing some when we are busy and all of the repairs. It had a £4k engine rebuild because of a sticky valve and 1 front tyre (dont ask :ROFLMAO: ).

Cost £28000
Hours at purchase 11273
Hours now 20800 (no its not a dodgy clock)
Worked hours while owned 9527
So 1587 hours/year
Total cost of all repairs £18587

I think realistically I might get £15K for it so

repairs + Depreciation = £31587
or £5265/yr
or £3.31/hr

Now the question is what to do now. I don't know but its time to change it. The cost of repairs has increased substantially and as you can see buying a high hour machine does rely on a deal of luck, the gearbox could go this morning then I would have to put £10k to those costs. If I stick with Fendt I can find plenty of 8 or 9 thousand hour tractors, probably a 700, not really worried about horse power but i wouldn't buy without knowing the back round which limits which to look at. Certainly nothing from a contractor.

New is looking competitive a 5yr 5000 hour warranty + servicing is cheaper than the repair bill I've had over 6 years, depreciation isn't. I doubt I will ever own a tractor with lower depreciation as I am definitely going to have to spend more than £28k. I am not fussed about make as we have 3 different colours here already. We will have to see, I have some prices and had some suggestions, the only almost certainty is that it will be a vario type as they are so much better on a feeder.

Tin hat on now :ROFLMAO:
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Quoting myself from another recent thread that’s probably worth a read @oli. Coincidentally I was talking with somebody today who has a Fendt with more hours than mine. History and how it was driven are more of important than anything. Problem with a 936 is when something breaks it will definitely be expensive

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oli

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Quoting myself from another recent thread that’s probably worth a read @oli. Coincidentally I was talking with somebody today who has a Fendt with more hours than mine. History and how it was driven are more of important than anything. Problem with a 936 is when something breaks it will definitely be expensive

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That's what I am worried about, I was originally looking at newholand t8050's as they seem pretty bomb proof maybe before this came out but there's none about anywhere, the only fendts I can find are over in Germany or France ect I would be very worried about importing for language barrier ect and end up buying a lemon is there such a thing as cheap hp at about 350 hp lol?
 

oli

New Member
never had anything to do with the 80 series NH & tbh, I’ve never even seen one.
The T8 replaced an NH 8970 Genesis, which was a brilliant tractor that I should have just rebuilt, instead of spending $300K on the T8

I’m coming from a background of Steigers, Versatile, Case & JD where you just assume 10,000 hrs + is normal . . .
I've heard nothing but good things really about the old genesis series there's still a lot around strong machines!
 

oli

New Member
depends entirely on...

Service history, namely were the fluids changed regularly over those hours.
Is everything working faultlessly after giving it a good workout, ideally pulling an implement in the field
General condition of the machine. Often a well presented and tidy machine has been looked after better than one that is in average condition.
If you can talk to the driver over those hours it will be quite valuable, as you will soon gauge by talking to him what sort of person he is and how likely he is to of looked after it. If it is sitting in a dealership he may be more willing to tell you of any potential problems

If it is a dealership machine, make sure you get some kind of comprehensive (defined) warranty
If you know a Fendt mechanic, or worst case an experienced operator taking them along thanks for the reply, the key ones I can find at the minute are Iver on the continent god only knows what there history is!
 

oli

New Member
Also been looking at claas and cat challenger 75's although it's totally different there quite a few places seem to like and run them as cheap tillage machines around here again all very High houred!
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
Am i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?
Is it private sale or dealership?
You need to find out history on the tractor.
Is it on original Vario box?
Some dealer's might go 50% on repair if the box went soon after you purchased it. If private sale factor the replacement cost in what you pay, and pay a fitter to stick a laptop on it, pressure test and fault history etc, best few hundred pounds you will spend.
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
I've heard nothing but good things really about the old genesis series there's still a lot around strong machines!

personally, if I was to buy a high hour FWA linkage tractor in the 250 hp range, my only choice would be a Genesis, a Case 7140 or a JD 8400. All bullet proof tractors that will easily run to over 10,000 hrs here without needing a great deal of love or attention


or a Cat 55 ( basically a Genesis on tracks & a Cat engine ) if I wanted tracks
 

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