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NoAm i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?
i hear a lot if engine and vario horror stories but im sure newholland have many too high hourd fendts seem to handle a lot of hours very well they dont look worn.
Am i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?
really that bad? are they not as good as the 80 serie before them?
depends entirely on...
Service history, namely were the fluids changed regularly over those hours.
Is everything working faultlessly after giving it a good workout, ideally pulling an implement in the field
General condition of the machine. Often a well presented and tidy machine has been looked after better than one that is in average condition.
If you can talk to the driver over those hours it will be quite valuable, as you will soon gauge by talking to him what sort of person he is and how likely he is to of looked after it. If it is sitting in a dealership he may be more willing to tell you of any potential problems
If it is a dealership machine, make sure you get some kind of comprehensive (defined) warranty
If you know a Fendt mechanic, or worst case an experienced operator taking them along may prove useful
I have been debating if I should write this post or nor as it breaks my "Dont put any financial stuff on TFF" rule. But after numerous high hour tractor threads I find these ACTUAL numbers fascinating.
I bought a 2007 Fendt 716 in May 2016. From my local dealer who had previously done the gearbox, I know the previous owner and it had been looked after but worked hard. It spends between 3 and 4 hours every day feeding my cows with a 22 cube diet feeder and does some general running around, muck trailers and similar jobs. We have done most of the servicing with the dealer doing some when we are busy and all of the repairs. It had a £4k engine rebuild because of a sticky valve and 1 front tyre (dont ask ).
Cost £28000
Hours at purchase 11273
Hours now 20800 (no its not a dodgy clock)
Worked hours while owned 9527
So 1587 hours/year
Total cost of all repairs £18587
I think realistically I might get £15K for it so
repairs + Depreciation = £31587
or £5265/yr
or £3.31/hr
Now the question is what to do now. I don't know but its time to change it. The cost of repairs has increased substantially and as you can see buying a high hour machine does rely on a deal of luck, the gearbox could go this morning then I would have to put £10k to those costs. If I stick with Fendt I can find plenty of 8 or 9 thousand hour tractors, probably a 700, not really worried about horse power but i wouldn't buy without knowing the back round which limits which to look at. Certainly nothing from a contractor.
New is looking competitive a 5yr 5000 hour warranty + servicing is cheaper than the repair bill I've had over 6 years, depreciation isn't. I doubt I will ever own a tractor with lower depreciation as I am definitely going to have to spend more than £28k. I am not fussed about make as we have 3 different colours here already. We will have to see, I have some prices and had some suggestions, the only almost certainty is that it will be a vario type as they are so much better on a feeder.
Tin hat on now
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That's what I am worried about, I was originally looking at newholand t8050's as they seem pretty bomb proof maybe before this came out but there's none about anywhere, the only fendts I can find are over in Germany or France ect I would be very worried about importing for language barrier ect and end up buying a lemon is there such a thing as cheap hp at about 350 hp lol?Quoting myself from another recent thread that’s probably worth a read @oli. Coincidentally I was talking with somebody today who has a Fendt with more hours than mine. History and how it was driven are more of important than anything. Problem with a 936 is when something breaks it will definitely be expensive
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Snapchat jockyLook at the ownership history, if it's been owner driven the chances are it will be fine, however if it's had 10 snapchat jockeys each harvest, even if its done 5k hours it will most likely have issues.
I've heard nothing but good things really about the old genesis series there's still a lot around strong machines!never had anything to do with the 80 series NH & tbh, I’ve never even seen one.
The T8 replaced an NH 8970 Genesis, which was a brilliant tractor that I should have just rebuilt, instead of spending $300K on the T8
I’m coming from a background of Steigers, Versatile, Case & JD where you just assume 10,000 hrs + is normal . . .
depends entirely on...
Service history, namely were the fluids changed regularly over those hours.
Is everything working faultlessly after giving it a good workout, ideally pulling an implement in the field
General condition of the machine. Often a well presented and tidy machine has been looked after better than one that is in average condition.
If you can talk to the driver over those hours it will be quite valuable, as you will soon gauge by talking to him what sort of person he is and how likely he is to of looked after it. If it is sitting in a dealership he may be more willing to tell you of any potential problems
If it is a dealership machine, make sure you get some kind of comprehensive (defined) warranty
If you know a Fendt mechanic, or worst case an experienced operator taking them along thanks for the reply, the key ones I can find at the minute are Iver on the continent god only knows what there history is!
Is it private sale or dealership?Am i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?
I've heard nothing but good things really about the old genesis series there's still a lot around strong machines!