High PressureDisc with following tineDirect Drill.

[Pilatus]

Is their a direct drill available in the U.K,that has high pressure discs (like 750a) to cut through cover crop residues, followed by seeding "TINE" ,that will move stones to one side to plant seed.
Here on the Cotswolds small areas are "SO STONY" 750A discs ride over the stones leaving seed o the surface.

 

[Badshot]

That would be a simtech then.

 

[Fred]

you ask the most pertinent question, techmagri do one http://www.techmagri.com/accueil.php#page121615
cross slot is another ,
then in canada there is the pillar laser http://www.pillarlasers.com
and clean seed capital,
http://www.cleanseedcapital.com
in australia rootboot
http://rootboot.com.au

 

[cosmagedon]

Mzuri Zip till - http://www.mzuri.eu/wp-content/themes/Mzuri/downloads/mzuri-ziptil-flyer.pdf

 

[JD-Kid]

ummmmm the razor system looks intresting on the rootboot set up

same with the clean seed system don't know how far apart the split would be tho maybe a tad far for grasses in a grazeing set up

 

[JD-Kid]

used to drill a lot of stoney river bed ground a lot rolled with a ton to the foot big rollers even 1.5 ton to a foot in some cases for grass etc the discs were semi OK as long as there was some cover close to the stone seeding with a V triple disc or even the likes of a moore any thing that seeded in the bottom of the disc cut
had 3 tine drills over the years and seen it happen on hard packed stone with CS's as well any thing undercutting with deeper disc or leading point on seeder had a risk of rideing out on the stone or in the case of tines pull stones up leading to re rolling

if it was just in a few areas and not covering 100's of acres what about something like a stone crusher or road milling machine and smash the stones up only would need to be done once
http://www.faeusa.com/us/land-clearing-products/pto-driven-heads/stone-crushers/stch-stch-hd
if the stone not too big
http://www.thegrassgroup.com/rotadairon-rx-soil-renovator.php#product-images/rx-still-shot.jpg

 

[Pilatus]

Picture of stony soil

 

[Badshot]

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You'd be better off with a stone picker there, you have more stone in your field than I have in my yard.....

 

[rob1]

You'd be better off with a stone picker there, you have more stone in your field than I have in my yard.....

Went to a velcourt farm once and thats what i said to the manager, but some of the stones there were as big as footballs, went home thinking maybe clay wasnt so bad after all

 

[Pilatus]

You'd be better off with a stone picker there, you have more stone in your field than I have in my yard.....

Unfortunately that is typical of some of the soil/stone I used to farm as a tenant,not good. I asked the question as the guy I sometimes help out is experiencing the problem mentioned in my thread title, on land he contract farms,no easy solution.

 

[Badshot]

Unfortunately that is typical of some of the soil/stone I used to farm as a tenant,not good. I asked the question as the guy I sometimes help out is experiencing the problem mentioned in my thread title, on land he contract farms,no easy solution.

So is there anything stopping it being collected and sold? Tenancy restrictions? Or is there that little soil there anyway? Must be horrendously hard on machinery.

 

[Pilatus]

So is there anything stopping it being collected and sold? Tenancy restrictions? Or is there that little soil there anyway? Must be horrendously hard on machinery.

In most areas like that there is very little soil any way,4/6" top soil at max then solid limestone,great in a drought year.!!!

 

[SilliamWhale]

If you did get rid of it at least with no till you wouldn't be pulling more and more up

 

[Badshot]

In most areas like that there is very little soil any way,4/6" top soil at max then solid limestone,great in a drought year.!!!

I won't complain about all the clay here then, challenging though it is at times I would prefer it to all that stone.

 

[JD-Kid]

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yea that looks like some of the stoney ground i used to drill if not mowing or cutting at ground level a good tine drill would do it would not need a opening disc
how much of an area like that ??? is it in paddocks etc or just bands in a lot of blocks why i ask is if a smaller area and growing higher harvestable crops maybe a cheep tine drill just to do the odd block if alot of it large % of total area would it be better haveing a fully tine set up seeder to do all yer drilling like a claydon etc etc

 

[Pilatus]

yea that looks like some of the stoney ground i used to drill if not mowing or cutting at ground level a good tine drill would do it would not need a opening disc




They need an opening disc to cut through mustard green cover crop which is rather tall,and also they bought the disc drill for direct seeding in to combine harvested pea stubble, tined drill did have some tine plugging problems.

 

[JD-Kid]

yea fair call on the discs if drilling in to that so something like a claydon with a turbo front colter