Hitting the grass 23

pappuller

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M6 Hard shoulder
3 tidy days forecast and plenty of staff about, why wouldn't you ?
 

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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
our grounds just a bit to tender to go just yet. Just had 35 N on 1 piece, slurry + N on the rest. Mix of westerwolds and IRG. The prg will need another few weeks yet, and the pp another 2 weeks after that.

multi cut, is a great idea, if we get enough moisture, we go as soon as possible, to ensure a decent second cut, might be sept before there's enough to cut again !
 

Scholsey

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Herefordshire
Only 8 acres the rest is 5yr leys, 1st year without sheep for a while and a very kind late autumn early winter has had a big bearing on things, 60 acres away from home will be 3-4 weeks behind so will crop everything in 4-5 weeks
What do you think not sheeping the autumn winter residuals will do to quality of 1st cut?
 

pappuller

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Livestock Farmer
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M6 Hard shoulder
What do you think not sheeping the autumn winter residuals will do to quality of 1st cut?
Everything was cut early October and then shut up slurry and urea mid Feb so no waste in the bottom, its a load of ballcocks that sheep improve spring grass quality. Back in the days when we zg grass samples taken in March off ground with no sheep was the best analysis we have ever had and this was a regular result. So this silage shouldn't be any different.
Plus the sheep man would of taken 50% of what is there and paid me £2k for the privilege, I reckon 180 tons of grass would cost me £9k as silage to buy.so its not necessarily just about the quality.
 

Enry

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Shropshire
Everything was cut early October and then shut up slurry and urea mid Feb so no waste in the bottom, its a load of ballcocks that sheep improve spring grass quality. Back in the days when we zg grass samples taken in March off ground with no sheep was the best analysis we have ever had and this was a regular result. So this silage shouldn't be any different.
Plus the sheep man would of taken 50% of what is there and paid me £2k for the privilege, I reckon 180 tons of grass would cost me £9k as silage to buy.so its not necessarily just about the quality.
Consultant was telling me the other week that he worked out how much sheep were likely to be eating on one farm, and the revenue didn't even come near the value of DM removed. With summer grass making £250-300/ac, I struggle to see the logic of having sheep beyond end of Nov/Mid Dec. They can do a job on seeds before Christmas, encouraging tillering etc, but when they are chomping off valuable leaf heading into spring it's a different matter. Some sheep men seem to think it's a dairy farmers duty to provide them with keep - times are changing, they will have more opportunities on arable farms with cover crops etc
 

In the pit

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Livestock Farmer
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Pembrokeshire
Consultant was telling me the other week that he worked out how much sheep were likely to be eating on one farm, and the revenue didn't even come near the value of DM removed. With summer grass making £250-300/ac, I struggle to see the logic of having sheep beyond end of Nov/Mid Dec. They can do a job on seeds before Christmas, encouraging tillering etc, but when they are chomping off valuable leaf heading into spring it's a different matter. Some sheep men seem to think it's a dairy farmers duty to provide them with keep - times are changing, they will have more opportunities on arable farms with cover crops etc
Tillering of grass happens in spring (for summer / autumn growth) and in autumn (for winter / spring growth) so how do people think sheep in nov ,dec,jan are gonna make grass tiller
 

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