Hogg deaths

[jed]

Having a mare with fattening lambs dying 30 + so far they have been dipped wormed ovivac P Alvited and there still dying talking to guy at local ag merchants he’s telling me I’m not on my own and one chap was telling him he’s lost almost 200 .
We‘ve done our normal routine weaned from hill farm brought them down home six weeks on grass now on turnips.
Only thing we did differently is used Zolvic wormer when we brought them home instead of cydectin tricamox.
Vet cut two up only thing a bit of pasturella in one of them .Worm count was 4000 initially but we wormed again with cydectin and count now below 50 but there still dying and I’m losing the will to live with them
Any suggestions welcome.

 

[AftonShepherd]

Would have said fluke if dose is all you've changed but should have been obvious when cut up.

 

[S J H]

Have they missed hep p when it wasn’t available?

 

[DieselRob]

Do some liver samples too see if there is a deficiency , I lost 4% on 1 batch before we found a cobalt deficiency. Not lost a lamb since treating with a cobalt smart shot

 

[Bury the Trash]

Nitrate / Nitrite poisoning ? the former there could be scouring the latter not so, but more respiratory prob. would kill them i cant remember what to look for in pm... would need to look it up. ..

Quite possibly high nitrate levels in the turnip tops more so in certain conditions (like after a drought for example i believe )

 

[Anymulewilldo]

You’re not on your own. Having a swine of a job keeping them going this year. Seem to be through the worst of it now but lost far to many this year. Just scouring themselves to death constantly, not dosed lambs so regularly ever I don’t think? I ended up treating the worst batches with Oxytet too. Touch wood that fair stopped the daily deaths

 

[Homesy]

Friend of mine bought 500 out of a Scottish market. Lost 80+ the first 2 weeks. His was down to wormer resistance. Vet thought it was pneumonia to start so jabbed everything with Oxytet LA which did nothing before he found out it was worms. Ironically it was Zolvic which stopped them dying. He said they would just look at you and die. Like you he was at his wits end. Very odd year. Being so dry for so long, worm burden low then when the rain came the worm count went through the roof. Vet reckoned low natural immunity then sudden challenge from worms resistant to his regular wormer coupled with stress of moving.
Soul destroying, I hope you find out the cause.

 

[Estate fencing.]

Ironically it was Zolvic which stopped them dying

Why is that ironic? I would have thought most people would have done that or startec first port of call for worms.

 

[casper74]

Seems to be a problem most are having this year! And blooming lame lambs I've never had so many lame lambs as this year, Scald, codd, and anything else to do with feet my lambs have got/had it

 

[Estate fencing.]

Seems to be a problem most are having this year! And blooming lame lambs I've never had so many lame lambs as this year, Scald, codd, and anything else to do with feet my lambs have got/had it

Got 2 bunches here that are doing my head in. 300 mule gimmer lambs that a shitty and lame as hell and the same in a bunch of 200 Suffolk cross ewes. Both bunch’s are embarrassing.

 

[Werzle]

Do you not think your all keeping to many and the farms are sheep sick . How can the job pay with the loses your talking about.

 

[casper74]

Do you not think your all keeping to many and the farms are sheep sick . How can the job pay with the loses your talking about.

Yes possibly in some cases, I have some on some grass that has not seen sheep for 10+years, and the lambs I have at home are on grass that has no sheep on from March until August, and on stubble turnips.
For some reason this year is a bad year (so far) for store lambs health.

 

[livestock 1]

If it’s pasturella you probably need to do a la 200 through them to break the cycle as said above
We have had hellish problems with skittered lambs since September was actually dosing again this week
Dose them with levafas diamond it’s a good wormer for lambs and does rumen fluke

 

[egbert]

Loupin ill?

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Do you not think your all keeping to many and the farms are sheep sick . How can the job pay with the loses your talking about.

I think there's been a huge difference this year between lambs on clean grass and those on grass that had sheep on all summer. I moved some lambs from a field that hasn't had sheep on all summer to one that has and within 3 days they were scouring hunched up and going backwards. Wormed them and brought them inside and they are just about back to how they were

 

[Kentishfarmer]

If your worm count was 4000 that would be knocking some over. If you then sorted it and they started rapidly gaining condition that's prime for closteidials and pasteurella. If they didn't come from heptivac/omnivac system they'll need another dose for decent immunity won't they?

 

[jed]

Would have said fluke if dose is all you've changed but should have been obvious when cut up.

Yep the two they cut up had no fluke

 

[neilo]

If it’s pasturella you probably need to do a la 200 through them to break the cycle as said above
We have had hellish problems with skittered lambs since September was actually dosing again this week
Dose them with levafas diamond it’s a good wormer for lambs and does rumen fluke

The last time we had a pasteurella outbreak teh vet prescribed Depocillin instead of the Oxytet we had used previously. It worked just as well and was half the price. Oxytet is no longer £7 a bottle it seems.

The wormer component in Levafas Diamond is yellow (levamisole) wormer, for which there is widespread resistance. It certainly isn't a good wormer for lambs on most UK farms!

 

[livestock 1]

Heptavac doesn’t cover all strains of pneumonia just so many

 

[livestock 1]

The last time we had a pasteurella outbreak teh vet prescribed Depocillin instead of the Oxytet we had used previously. It worked just as well and was half the price. Oxytet is no longer £7 a bottle it seems.

The wormer component in Levafas Diamond is yellow (levamisole) wormer, for which there is widespread resistance. It certainly isn't a good wormer for lambs on most UK farms!

You don’t buy store lambs so really you are advising on something you have no experience of again
Dose with levafas it’s a good dose for store lambs