The enzyme that is weed in home now dry is soya that has had no processing. There is another been but it is used in medical tests . Fresh harvested wheat or barley not dried that will kill the enzyme has enough enzyme to change urea into amonia.All.
home'n dry.....again
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I'll look out the spec tomorrow.
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iirc Home & Dry has soya (at a low level) as an addition to the carrier & enzyme to increase the DUP level. I presume Maxxamon etc has similar?
The enzyme is in the soya that is why they use it urease is the enzyme.
Never found out what others use they like to keep it hiden . Years ago I talked to harbo when they were researching ideas keep it to them selves . It was Basil Lowman how put me in touch with them . Basil was as I am aware of was the first to put this urea on grain forward.
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But Would it be simpler and more cost effective to just add hypro soya ?
Molasses would help binding / feeding i guess
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Lol I went to a blend to simplify things. Fed straight protected rape and treated barley last summer and that worked well but before my experiment was concluded I had the blend bought (thank goodness, as prices had jumped by the time I had concluded experiment) I am short of shed space for straights so 1 ingredient or blend suits us better.
It Would be ok that way .
but a bit of care is needed the other way, ie going from just barley to treated.
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How so that way round I thought the treatment made it safer to feed? Surely switching off it will massively increase the acid loading?
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My thoughts also.
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I’ve never had a problem going that way, but would always mix if going from an alkaline (treated) feed to straight untreated, for fear of acidosis.
I suppose on second thoughts it won't make a lot of odds either way around, As they are used to what is high starch load,whether its treated or not.
Yes and don't let urea treatment lull you into a false sense of feeding safety , its oversold on that premis imo.
and if its home and dry its got soya in it,not much admittedly but it
is an extra to the barley .
and if its home and dry its got soya in it,not much admittedly but it
is an extra to the barley .
We can't go giving away all of our trade secretes 
Honestly... we have people using just FG Urea, using GF Urea and Soya and others using the Enzyme (which uses a soya carrier) and FG Urea all with varying degrees of success. For consistency, preservation, protein and pH you can't beat the Enzyme and FG Urea though.
The science:
The urease enzyme reacts with the urea (it's same reaction that's happening between poo and pee by the way) to produce Ammonia. Ammonia Gas then circulates throughout the heap attaching itself to the feed to create NH2 / amides / building blocks of Amino Acids / protein.
Urease Enzyme is present on grains and soya but in such low quantities the reaction is A LOT slower and less reactive!! For the most cost effective reaction you need the enzyme and FG Urea to get the best results.
There is a big difference in the way the Enzyme is processed and applied to the carried so not all Enzyme products are created equal...
Honestly... we have people using just FG Urea, using GF Urea and Soya and others using the Enzyme (which uses a soya carrier) and FG Urea all with varying degrees of success. For consistency, preservation, protein and pH you can't beat the Enzyme and FG Urea though.
The science:
The urease enzyme reacts with the urea (it's same reaction that's happening between poo and pee by the way) to produce Ammonia. Ammonia Gas then circulates throughout the heap attaching itself to the feed to create NH2 / amides / building blocks of Amino Acids / protein.
Urease Enzyme is present on grains and soya but in such low quantities the reaction is A LOT slower and less reactive!! For the most cost effective reaction you need the enzyme and FG Urea to get the best results.
There is a big difference in the way the Enzyme is processed and applied to the carried so not all Enzyme products are created equal...
Hi I was led to believe that whole soya been in not the best but the best in commercial quantitins for the enzyme unease no other adatives of urease is added.
The whole soya bean is not used, but it is the best carrier and of all the possible carriers it contains the most urease enzyme. I cannot speak for other Enzyme products but I know we add additional enzymes, not just urease, that help the reaction, flowability, preservation etc.
If other Enzymes products are just using the soya bean then fair enough but our comparisons showed a significant increase when the enzyme and soya were used compared to just soya.
If other Enzymes products are just using the soya bean then fair enough but our comparisons showed a significant increase when the enzyme and soya were used compared to just soya.
That leads me to ask where does other urease enzyme comes from!