How do you …. Get out of farming?

merino

Member
Location
The North East
Do you mean the actual nuts and bolts of it?

My family sold a farm a little while ago.

It's a process.

If you'll forgive me I'm about to rant insanely.

You obviously start by deciding to sell up.
That's probably the difficult bit for a lot of people.

It's important to then understand it's not a process you can command to finish. We decided to sell in early 2016, we got paid in late 2018.

It goes in stages after that.

You're going to have to have the talk with what I believe are called stakeholders, I wouldn't presume to know who yours are but family and bank were our two big ones.

Then you're going to have to think about how you present your product to market, unless you're fully tenanted I guess.
Then the process will be described in your tenancy agreement.

I spent a full summer sorting drainage and finishing installing water troughs, we also kept spreading lime and doing reseeds throughout the process.
Did it help? Probably not, but it was something to say to the various customers.

I wouldn't presume to know what your farm needs doesn't or otherwise but a right good tidy up is a good place to start.

It took us a full year to go from decision to ad in the paper.

Which brings me to the next bit, the difference between the land agents hoping to sell the place was thirty to fifty percent in terms of what they reckoned to be achievable price wise. We went with the one who reckoned he could get the most money, and he did. Shop around, it's definitely not all about fees.
There were fees and costs before the sale too, nothing outrageous but photography advertising etc.

Then there's the period of time it's on the market.

@czechmate is unfortunately correct in the fact that selling a farm can be depressing work.

There's a good amount of taking young people who are progressing in the industry around on pleasant summer afternoon and hopefully you'll do more of that than I did.

You'll get quite a few reputable professionals and they're good to deal with too.

Then there's quite long periods of not much happening, I found that quite stressful, but you'll not worry about that when you're done.

Some people hate the people 'just popping in' for a look, I didn't mind, got to get the place sold, but I did have the guy who said he'd pay half of listed price on the day of my aunts funeral.
He was fundamentally alright though.

Then there's the problem.
Making an honest living in agriculture is hard.
The industry as a whole runs older.
The upshot of that a strong possibility you will run into at least one angry old man whose never done a days honest work in his life berating anything he can think of, trying every trick he can think of to steal from you.
Good legal representation helped a lot there.

I didn't really expect to have someone screaming at me in my yard when I started out selling. I digress, a good land agent will prevent things getting totally out of hand, it's not all salmon trousers and whisky for lunch.

You'll have to have your day at the mart with your stock. That was an alright day, mart was good to me about it.
Felt like I sold them for nothing though, but you're quite likely to not do terribly well on some aspect of the sale, you'll do well on other parts.

I did have someone screaming at me about that too.

What else, the work load of keeping stock and selling a farm was high.

Beyond that?

You'll be talking to your legal representative quite a bit throughout no matter what you've got.
Make sure you've got a good one it saves money in the long run.

Some members of your local agricultural community will treat you like selling up is a contagious disease.

I did let one guy have some things at a discount, he sold them immediately, but he did get a house out of it and it's difficult to begrudge him that.

One guy from my young farmers tried to get my tractor for fifty percent off.

Some people stopped talking to me the day of the sale and totally blanked me in public and private going forward.

Eventually though it did all come to an end and I do not regret selling up for one second.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Do you mean the actual nuts and bolts of it?

My family sold a farm a little while ago.

It's a process.

If you'll forgive me I'm about to rant insanely.

You obviously start by deciding to sell up.
That's probably the difficult bit for a lot of people.

It's important to then understand it's not a process you can command to finish. We decided to sell in early 2016, we got paid in late 2018.

It goes in stages after that.

You're going to have to have the talk with what I believe are called stakeholders, I wouldn't presume to know who yours are but family and bank were our two big ones.

Then you're going to have to think about how you present your product to market, unless you're fully tenanted I guess.
Then the process will be described in your tenancy agreement.

I spent a full summer sorting drainage and finishing installing water troughs, we also kept spreading lime and doing reseeds throughout the process.
Did it help? Probably not, but it was something to say to the various customers.

I wouldn't presume to know what your farm needs doesn't or otherwise but a right good tidy up is a good place to start.

It took us a full year to go from decision to ad in the paper.

Which brings me to the next bit, the difference between the land agents hoping to sell the place was thirty to fifty percent in terms of what they reckoned to be achievable price wise. We went with the one who reckoned he could get the most money, and he did. Shop around, it's definitely not all about fees.
There were fees and costs before the sale too, nothing outrageous but photography advertising etc.

Then there's the period of time it's on the market.

@czechmate is unfortunately correct in the fact that selling a farm can be depressing work.

There's a good amount of taking young people who are progressing in the industry around on pleasant summer afternoon and hopefully you'll do more of that than I did.

You'll get quite a few reputable professionals and they're good to deal with too.

Then there's quite long periods of not much happening, I found that quite stressful, but you'll not worry about that when you're done.

Some people hate the people 'just popping in' for a look, I didn't mind, got to get the place sold, but I did have the guy who said he'd pay half of listed price on the day of my aunts funeral.
He was fundamentally alright though.

Then there's the problem.
Making an honest living in agriculture is hard.
The industry as a whole runs older.
The upshot of that a strong possibility you will run into at least one angry old man whose never done a days honest work in his life berating anything he can think of, trying every trick he can think of to steal from you.
Good legal representation helped a lot there.

I didn't really expect to have someone screaming at me in my yard when I started out selling. I digress, a good land agent will prevent things getting totally out of hand, it's not all salmon trousers and whisky for lunch.

You'll have to have your day at the mart with your stock. That was an alright day, mart was good to me about it.
Felt like I sold them for nothing though, but you're quite likely to not do terribly well on some aspect of the sale, you'll do well on other parts.

I did have someone screaming at me about that too.

What else, the work load of keeping stock and selling a farm was high.

Beyond that?

You'll be talking to your legal representative quite a bit throughout no matter what you've got.
Make sure you've got a good one it saves money in the long run.

Some members of your local agricultural community will treat you like selling up is a contagious disease.

I did let one guy have some things at a discount, he sold them immediately, but he did get a house out of it and it's difficult to begrudge him that.

One guy from my young farmers tried to get my tractor for fifty percent off.

Some people stopped talking to me the day of the sale and totally blanked me in public and private going forward.

Eventually though it did all come to an end and I do not regret selling up for one second.

i can’t imagine selling the cows🤦
 

DRC

Member
You will always get the gossipers and people who either think they know better or just can’t believe you are giving up farming . Some jealous of the fact your doing what they haven’t the balls to do, or are tied by other family etc.
We didn’t have a farm sale, but as I’d sorted the tenancy out which included having it for another year on FBT and staying in the house for the extra 12 months, it gave me plenty of time to sell everything privately . I was helped by a good friend in the trade that gave an honest valuation of things and the fact machinery prices were on fire at the time.
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
Outta Morston - well at least it wouldn't be too demanding on your time with only about 3 hours each tide deep enough to float a rubber duck

tbh that does put me off a bit...when we go out with friends they always seem to be fretting about tide and water🤔

be nice to go out on evening tide...moor/sleep on the 'pit' and come back on the following evening tide though🙂
 

Wood field

Member
Livestock Farmer
tbh that does put me off a bit...when we go out with friends they always seem to be fretting about tide and water🤔

be nice to go out on evening tide...moor/sleep on the 'pit' and come back on the following evening tide though🙂
That’s one of my “ wants” the house along the coast and a fishing boat , my collection of old bikes and an occasional walk in the hills
My Mrs said if we sell up will you get a job , fek that I won’t have time 😂
 

Bongodog

Member
tbh that does put me off a bit...when we go out with friends they always seem to be fretting about tide and water🤔

be nice to go out on evening tide...moor/sleep on the 'pit' and come back on the following evening tide though🙂
Whatever floats your boat (or doesn't in this case) I'll sit in a hotel window in Blakeney and keep an eye on you, I'm sure you will be easy to recognise
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
That’s one of my “ wants” the house along the coast and a fishing boat , my collection of old bikes and an occasional walk in the hills
My Mrs said if we sell up will you get a job , fek that I won’t have time 😂

tbh you've built that farm from nowt so it's yours to do as you please...kudos:).....mine was gifted/inherited so i kinda feel a moral obligation to keep it going🤔

ok...here's my madcap plan......make silage on the flat outlying......keep beltex on the inbye where you can run them in the barn when weather to harsh....feeding/fattening on the silage....i know they're soft but you'll have top price lambs/culls......speaking of culls,,,,buy grazers early summer stock lightly and sell off hill in march.....don't know if last bit feasible🤔
 

Rich_ard

Member
tbh you've built that farm from nowt so it's yours to do as you please...kudos:).....mine was gifted/inherited so i kinda feel a moral obligation to keep it going🤔

ok...here's my madcap plan......make silage on the flat outlying......keep beltex on the inbye where you can run them in the barn when weather to harsh....feeding/fattening on the silage....i know they're soft but you'll have top price lambs/culls......speaking of culls,,,,buy grazers early summer stock lightly and sell off hill in march.....don't know if last bit feasible🤔
Are you fully qualified to give sheep advice?
 

Wood field

Member
Livestock Farmer
tbh you've built that farm from nowt so it's yours to do as you please...kudos:).....mine was gifted/inherited so i kinda feel a moral obligation to keep it going🤔

ok...here's my madcap plan......make silage on the flat outlying......keep beltex on the inbye where you can run them in the barn when weather to harsh....feeding/fattening on the silage....i know they're soft but you'll have top price lambs/culls......speaking of culls,,,,buy grazers early summer stock lightly and sell off hill in march.....don't know if last bit feasible🤔
You never know unless you try!
My plan if keeping going is to get some size and value in the lambs , maybe a bit of less is more 🤔
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
I'll sit in a hotel window in Blakeney ,

didn't know you were THAT wealthy:oops:😁
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this'll be me btw
 

fgc325j

Member
An English guy moved to our farm, it was a run down sheep farm with delapidated house when he bought it. He set out and set up a pedigree limmi herd, altered the buildings and yards for cattle, oh and he was 83 when he bought and didn’t speak French 😳
would of loved to of met him
Well - we are all different. I know of one farmer, turned 70 at the beginning of winter, and he has definitely been going "backwards" as far as get and go, and putting the long hours in, since his 69th. Will he see his 83rd ????
 

fgc325j

Member
An English guy moved to our farm, it was a run down sheep farm with delapidated house when he bought it. He set out and set up a pedigree limmi herd, altered the buildings and yards for cattle, oh and he was 83 when he bought and didn’t speak French 😳
would of loved to of met him
We are all different. I know one farmer, turned 70 at the beginning of winter, and his "get up and go" and being able to do the work in-between 2 milkings,
are definitely down from when he turned 69. Will he see 83 ????
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
We are all different. I know one farmer, turned 70 at the beginning of winter, and his "get up and go" and being able to do the work in-between 2 milkings,
are definitely down from when he turned 69. Will he see 83 ????

ah…. « Milkings » 🤦‍♀️
Whenever I’m getting down about our situation ; I always remind myself… « at least I don’t have to milk mine👍👍👍 »
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
It’s a shite weather thing,I haven’t thought about packing in for at least twenty minutes or so…

If you farm in partnership you can use BADR
Each partner gets £1m relief,so a saving of £200k on normal capital gains on a £2m profit,still £200k in tax though.
Bugger.... is that all :(
 

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