I've just taken delivery of 2 bins from biffa for recycling and general waste , a bit extravagant but will save having piles around the place waiting for the annual tip run
How long do you spend preparing for RT audit?
- Thread starter Neddy flanders
- Start date
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Like so much of it...
Is that a combinable assurance requirement? I’m only assured for the sheep here, so maybe that’s why it’s not gold plated to be annual?
A bit like having to have a sprayer MOTed annually for RT, whereas legally it’s only necessary every 5 years.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Why not let RT award marks out of ten to “grade” producers then see what premium buyers will pay for the super heroes getting 10/10.
Many of the failure points have no effect whatsoever on the safety of the product so should not mean suspension from the scheme and inability to trade. This is how it works in the catering industry. Premises are rarely closed down but awarded a rating and the customer then decides. So if my moisture meter or sprayer is out of test I get 9/10. My merchant can see this on the national register and can enquire as to why this is and then make a rational decision on whether to buy my produce. A much more incentivised scheme offering a less draconian solution to those of us who aren’t perfect while rewarding those who like this sort of thing ( maybe?!)
Many of the failure points have no effect whatsoever on the safety of the product so should not mean suspension from the scheme and inability to trade. This is how it works in the catering industry. Premises are rarely closed down but awarded a rating and the customer then decides. So if my moisture meter or sprayer is out of test I get 9/10. My merchant can see this on the national register and can enquire as to why this is and then make a rational decision on whether to buy my produce. A much more incentivised scheme offering a less draconian solution to those of us who aren’t perfect while rewarding those who like this sort of thing ( maybe?!)
I thought it was 3 years, unless you have a new one?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
In my view suspension should only occur if a legal requirement directly affecting food safety is contravened, not because you’ve contravened one of the ever increasing list of “nice to have’s” they keep on adding to the scheme.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
It’s three years, so it’s gold plated by RT. On the other hand I just bought a secondhand sprayer that’s tested till jan 22 with boom hanging off it as a refurb project. You’d be mad to take the MOT to mean anything. A bollox scheme.
I think there’s more beef with RT in the combineables and beet sector. Because we have no choice to join or not (as over 95% of tonnage is bought by aic members who won’t buy unassured grain unless it’s from abroad, which they do as soon as it’s cheaper ..)
Also we are made to test our moisture meters and retain grain loading samples even though the buyers won’t accept them as proof in any dispute and the buyers retain their own samples. You can’t make this sh!t up
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
That’s exactly why my cereals are non-FA.
I can feed my own non-FA cereals to my stock if I wish, but if was to buy some in, it would have to be FA....
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Maybe it’s changed, or I have chosen to listen selectively?
It’s a good job I only spray trace elements or water through mine then.
I think there’s more beef with RT in the combineables and beet sector. Because we have no choice to join or not (as over 95% of tonnage is bought by aic members who won’t buy unassured grain unless it’s from abroad, which they do as soon as it’s cheaper ..)
Also we are made to test our moisture meters and retain grain loading samples even though the buyers won’t accept them as proof in any dispute and the buyers retain their own samples. You can’t make this sh!t up
im desperate to become non FA
Princess Pooper
Member
- Location
- East Mids
nope, waste disposal is supposed to be at least every 12 months, (Ag Waste Regs) 18 months likely the furthest they will stretch it. Our only non-compliance was that our last waste ticket was 18 months old. We were really peed off because even stretching it to the 28 days for non-compliance it meant we didn't quite get rid of all the bale wrap and net for the season as we were feeding for another couple of weeks (which is when we wanted to get the waste removed).
- Location
- N.Lincs
No. We can't see your....er....thermometer
- Location
- Lincolnshire
It really is the culmination of the Orwellian nightmare. A regime of assurance, monitoring and control fascism where nobody is trusted whatsoever. Well you don’t build an industry or society worth working in on this sort of sh!t. You build an industry on trust and mutual respect as has worked for thousands of years. I only wish people could see that. But apparently they can’t.
- Location
- Northleach, Gloucestershire
A certain ex farm manager who you may well know told me years ago that he used to retreat to the farm office for a day with a bunch of different pens to fill out the paperwork, whilst his wife kept the supply of coffee and Benson and Hedges coming, he said within an hour he had got the pen rotation sorted, this was when i realised that RT is a load of ballcocks, it just makes us into liars.Surely it doesn’t take more than ten minutes to prepare for a RT audit, and that is just getting the relevant files out onto the kitchen table? The audit is just a spot check to certify that you are operating to a set of standards, with all the necessary paperwork having been updated on a daily basis.
I’m shocked that the general theme on this thread seems to suggest otherwise.
As I said before, who has the biggest incentive to sell grain that won't get rejected- me! Can't afford it. It should be up to me how i manage my business to achieve this outcome.
Sorry man rt is nothing to do with legal it's a company's raket that to many people joined and now have us loked in its a raket ,see what it is a raket man.