How long will Jim Moseley last at Red Tractor?

[Grass And Grain]

Today the Red Tractor Beef & Lamb Board motioned a vote of no confidence in the RT executive.

This evening the TFA ran a Q and A webinar with Jim Moseley. Couple of questions came in. One asked what RT could do to help level the playing field with grain imports. Another referenced the 3 year audit interval for New Zealand Lamb assurance scheme.

Seems to me there's a theme running here. Farmers think RT is too burdensome.

Jim answered by saying RT is a great scheme and gives good market access and high standards valued by the retailers. Keep high standards and robust audits.

Is Jim deaf? Is he not hearing what people are telling him. Is he wanting farmers to throw him off the RT board? Will he defend Red Tractor until the cows come home.

This doesn't seem a very smart way to keep your job. Why didn't he say "I've finally understood farmers think RT is too burdensome, so we'll work to make it easier for you guys to compete with imports".

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I wonder how Jim and Christine’s contracts are worded. I wonder what kind of severance packages they would receive if given the heave-ho as opposed to them resigning.

Also, on a separate matter, do you get a severance package if dismissed for gross misconduct?

 

[bobk]

Only way to get rid of RT is to cancel the dd
Gravy trains run on farmers toil

 

[slackjawedyokel]

BTW, I suspect Jim may retire when he leaves RT. Option 1 could encompass option 2 and 3.

 

[warksfarmer]

The bloke is either a blithering idiot that simply doesn’t get that farmers hate their scheme or he’s being paid by the retailers to shaft us all. It’s one or the other.

 

[JP1]

Should have been D: less time than a lettuce

 

[thorpe]

The bloke is either a blithering idiot that simply doesn’t get that farmers hate their scheme or he’s being paid by the retailers to shaft us all. It’s one of the other.

he's being paid then

 

[Grass And Grain]

At TFA webinar he spoke really well and bigged up RT. Suppose that's his job.

However, without farmers Red Tractor is toast, and anyone with half an ounce of common sense would realise all the farmers have had enough.

So is a CEO any good if they can't strike the right balance.

 

[Grass And Grain]

He also said he welcomed competition in assurance schemes, and also agreed Gatekeeper should be available for UK grain.

If RT wanted to keep their assessors in a job, instead of auditing our annual NSTS test, they could get up the heap, take a sample, send to the lab and give us our Gatekeeper certificate. Can't see it should cost any more than £50/farm.

 

[B'o'B]

He also said he welcomed competition in assurance schemes, and also agreed Gatekeeper should be available for UK grain.

If RT wanted to keep their assessors in a job, instead of auditing our annual NSTS test, they could get up the heap, take a sample, send to the lab and give us our Gatekeeper certificate. Can't see it should cost any more than £50/farm.

He can safely say RT would welcome competition it sounds good, but ultimately he knows BRC, AIC, AHDB and NFU will work together to stifle any potential competition.

Case in point Gatekeeper for grain, AIC allows gatekeeper for imports, but won’t accept it for domestic.
RT can and do say they think gatekeeper should be available to UK producers, knowing full well AIC won’t allow it (well they will for imports, but not for UK farmers)

 

[Grass And Grain]

He can safely say RT would welcome competition it sounds good, but ultimately he knows BRC, AIC, AHDB and NFU will work together to stifle any potential competition.

Case in point Gatekeeper for grain, AIC allows gatekeeper for imports, but won’t accept it for domestic.
RT can say they think gatekeeper should be available to UK producers, knowing full well AIC won’t allow it (well they will for imports, but not for UK farmers)

We need to dig down and understand the reasons why AIC reject UK Gatekeeper.

I suppose they're getting a nice juicy RT standard for free, but my hunch is the merchants (particularly a farmer owned one with orange logo) only want to deal with a single assurance standard and different schemes will make life too difficult for them. That's understandable reasoning, but it shouldn't stop alternatives to RT being available to the farmer.

Can bet your bottom dollar any potential UK Gatekeeper scheme will be made unworkable. £1,000 lab test for each commodity on each farm, and they wouldn't want us to blend samples from 60 farms so we can't spread cost of the lab tests.

In reality, a much simpler self-assured passport would be probably better for us farmers, accompanied by a 36 monthly check by your local authority. It's near as dam it equivalent to the Red Tractor scheme, but without paying a private company for the honour of selling your grain.

We'll get there. Or at least we'll get something better than we've got now.

 

[principal skinner]

The bloke is either a blithering idiot that simply doesn’t get that farmers hate their scheme or he’s being paid by the retailers to shaft us all. It’s one or the other.

Personally, I think he’s an idiot who’s in the supermarkets pocket. That’s only my opinion (Jim)

 

[J 1177]

Today the Red Tractor Beef & Lamb Board motioned a vote of no confidence in the RT executive.

This evening the TFA ran a Q and A webinar with Jim Moseley. Couple of questions came in. One asked what RT could do to help level the playing field with grain imports. Another referenced the 3 year audit interval for New Zealand Lamb assurance scheme.

Seems to me there's a theme running here. Farmers think RT is too burdensome.

Jim answered by saying RT is a great scheme and gives good market access and high standards valued by the retailers. Keep high standards and robust audits.

Is Jim deaf? Is he not hearing what people are telling him. Is he wanting farmers to throw him off the RT board? Will he defend Red Tractor until the cows come home.

This doesn't seem a very smart way to keep your job. Why didn't he say "I've finally understood farmers think RT is too burdensome, so we'll work to make it easier for you guys to compete with imports".

Hes got to say what his supermarket pupet masters tell him....

 

[Grass And Grain]

Hes got to say what his supermarket pupet masters tell him....

Not exactly on the side of farmers is he.

How many times do we need to tell him, we're sick of having extra and unnecessary RT standards/costs put on us, while we watch imports infiltrate the same supermarket shelf.

The pig headedness and dancing to supermarkets' tune will be his downfall imho. And Tacon. She said about the GFC "not if, but when" after all the farmers were up in arms about it.

No farmers = end of Red Tractor. Are Moseley and Tacon running the company responsibly? Doesn't look like it from where I'm sat. We need fresh faces who understand farming.

 

[milkloss]

Until retirement. He’s there to run the clock, career is shot anyway so it’s his last hurrah.

And we’ll sit idly by and let it happen.

 

[teslacoils]

Telling who voted for him to stay.....

 

[SilliamWhale]

Telling who voted for him to stay.....

I did because I think it will be v difficult to remove the f**ker.

He shouldn't be in his position as we speak. Batters as an NFU president should have booted him out

 

[Devil's advocate]

 

[teslacoils]

I did because I think it will be v difficult to remove the f**ker.

He shouldn't be in his position as we speak. Batters as an NFU president should have booted him out

More which folk supported the vote of no confidence. Farmers and pro cessirs for. Retailers against. Says all you need to know.

 

[L P]

He also said he welcomed competition in assurance schemes, and also agreed Gatekeeper should be available for UK grain.

If RT wanted to keep their assessors in a job, instead of auditing our annual NSTS test, they could get up the heap, take a sample, send to the lab and give us our Gatekeeper certificate. Can't see it should cost any more than £50/farm.

I was informed by my trader a Gatekeeper analysis is a 29 page report and costs £1500. Sounds like tosh protecting RT and making its cost look rather pleasing... maybe its true and it is that dear... maybe ten farms or twenty could combine samples for Gatekeeper... be a very good way weasel out those that fail us if you had an independant retest.

Jim and Christine have so much sh!t falling from their trousers they may be encrusted to the chair or incapable of standing up to stand down... I'd be unsurprised if it hasn't set solid and they sink with "dignity" incapable of leaving the sinking ship.