How Many More People Can the UK Take?

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
I don't understand why building on land that can grow food is an issue, that is what people have always done and if they didn't all major cities would be sited on mountain tops or in a swamp.
Is there room in this country for more people? Of course there is, loads of it and money to accommodate them too if need be. I see it the same as any family in poverty, the major issue is nearly always bad management of funds rather than lack of.
If there are people that want to come here and work hard, make a better life for themselves and integrate into our country and it's culture then they are welcome as far as I am concerned because they will make it a better place.
If they choose to live off the state and insist on not integrating or adapting our ways they can feck right off as we have more than enough of them already, homegrown and otherwise.
Lots of farmers are only too happy to sell their land for building. No one forces them to do it at gunpoint so farmers are as much to blame as anyone.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
It would be safe to assume that Britain could easily hold twice as many people but if the people in charge do not acknowledge this and do not invest in the country to sustain the population then your going to struggle no matter what the population is.
Personally I think we need to build alot more apartment buildings this low density housing is killing councils all over the country....
And if the private sector won't do it the government should be stepping in to make sure there's enough housing for everyone.
I am sure I have read the the highest density of housing is in the most desirable area of London, Kensington & Chelsea, it is just that the design of high density housing has to be better, the brutalism of 1960's architects has given high density housing a bad name. I think architects design for architects and not for the lives of the people living there too!
 

BRB John

Member
BASIS
Location
Aberdeenshire
I am sure I have read the the highest density of housing is in the most desirable area of London, Kensington & Chelsea, it is just that the design of high density housing has to be better, the brutalism of 1960's architects has given high density housing a bad name. I think architects design for architects and not for the lives of the people living there too!
Just a quick look and it seems London has a pop density of 5,701 compared to New York's 38,242. So London could hold the entire population of the country without expanding. And you could bull doze all other houses.... 😉
Yeah there is alot of ugly buildings out there unfortunately...
 

Tamar

Member
The way the world is going, the Russians and Chinese might soon be thinning out the world !!


On a side note, the most common boys name in the UK last year was Mohammed. Not sure Britain will be very British soon !
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Just a honest question, the UKs population has grown by 4million extra people, in the last 10 years and is growing faster then ever? Here where i am the infrustructure is creaking? sewage system overloaded now, water water where, electric, where? once land here is built on its gone, gone from producing food, without playing the race card , but just looking at it from a practical point down here in the southeast we are full up?
The UK population has been growing at the modest rate of 0.4% a year since the 1980’s but has slowed significantly recently and is not expected to grow at all over the next decade. So it is certainly not “growing faster than ever”. The increased need for housing is down to the number of single parent families, second home owners and marriage failures as much as any slight increase in our population.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
The way the world is going, the Russians and Chinese might soon be thinning out the world !!


On a side note, the most common boys name in the UK last year was Mohammed. Not sure Britain will be very British soon !
If not for immigrants, the UK would have a seriously declining population with all the serious issues that would bring. One in every five [20%] of women giving birth in the UK today was not herself born in the UK. The UK birthrate is nevertheless below the 2.1 children per woman that is required to maintain the population at a constant level.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
The UK population has been growing at the modest rate of 0.4% a year since the 1980’s but has slowed significantly recently and is not expected to grow at all over the next decade. So it is certainly not “growing faster than ever”. The increased need for housing is down to the number of single parent families, second home owners and marriage failures as much as any slight increase in our population.
Once upon a time children shared bedrooms. In our village several families had six kids in a three bedroom council house.
 

bluebell

Member
You honestly cant tell me that a population increase by a very conservative figure of an extra 240,000 extra people a year has no effect on the demand for extra housing, these figures are more alarming when you take it that 300,000 odd people a year leave this country either to retire abroad or if young seeking a better life? It maybe not be affecting you where you live in the UK, but here in essex as ive stated its a rat race in many parts of essex now, what will it be like if all these extra houses that are earmarked by my local council (28,000extra) in a small area be like.
 

BRB John

Member
BASIS
Location
Aberdeenshire
You honestly cant tell me that a population increase by a very conservative figure of an extra 240,000 extra people a year has no effect on the demand for extra housing, these figures are more alarming when you take it that 300,000 odd people a year leave this country either to retire abroad or if young seeking a better life? It maybe not be affecting you where you live in the UK, but here in essex as ive stated its a rat race in many parts of essex now, what will it be like if all these extra houses that are earmarked by my local council (28,000extra) in a small area be like.
Plus there's usually around 600,000 deaths per year. It can be easy to get lost in facts and figures or to use those facts and figures to prove one biased or the other.
Or maybe in your case, to assume you are normal and that everywhere is the same as where you live but it's not just because Essex is packed with people wanting to live there doesn't mean everywhere is. If you don't like people I strongly recommend you sell up and buy a much larger farm in Aberdeenshire far away from everyone 🤣.
 

kfpben

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Location
Mid Hampshire
Fly into Gatwick and there’s an amazing amount of space.
That’s only 20 miles from London.

Much as I would love to live in a U.K. with a third of the population a country with a growing population is a successful one. An area with a falling population is deeply depressing and creates a snowball effect as no one wants to live or invest there.

Globally the hugely increased population is undoubtedly putting massive strain on natural resources but…population of a country is money, influence and power. Small countries tend to be ignored.

It is predicted that somewhere between 2050- 2100 that global population will plateau and then start to decline. It will be interesting what happens to global economies then- who wants to invest or start a business when you have fewer customers every year?
 

uztrac

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
fakenham-norfolk
Obviously the present system doesn't work and hasn't done for many years. So! what shall we do ?
Sweet FA as we are complacent in the downfall of our Country.
I have an instinct that the arrivals are 5th columnists,and we shall soon all pay the price for our elected ones incompetence in resolving this major issue.Those of us who live in remote villages and rural locations do not notice the changes,but go off to London for day or two and the effects of over population are obvious.Filthy ,dirty, and dangerous environment.
 

sjt01

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
You honestly cant tell me that a population increase by a very conservative figure of an extra 240,000 extra people a year has no effect on the demand for extra housing, these figures are more alarming when you take it that 300,000 odd people a year leave this country either to retire abroad or if young seeking a better life? It maybe not be affecting you where you live in the UK, but here in essex as ive stated its a rat race in many parts of essex now, what will it be like if all these extra houses that are earmarked by my local council (28,000extra) in a small area be like.
Demand for extra housing round here is due to 60% of the village being second homes
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
Just a honest question, the UKs population has grown by 4million extra people, in the last 10 years and is growing faster then ever? Here where i am the infrustructure is creaking? sewage system overloaded now, water water where, electric, where? once land here is built on its gone, gone from producing food, without playing the race card , but just looking at it from a practical point down here in the southeast we are full up?
The Infrastructure isn’t creaking from too many people. It’s creaking from massive under investment from countless governments that have subcontracted work out to poorly run but highly profitable private companies
 

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