How many of you block rights of way?

[Pilatus]

I do wonder that some members of the public are either consciously or subconsciously , “Left Wing” and begrudge farmers owning land. To me “Lefties” think along the lines “what’s yours is mine, what’s mine is my own”.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The problem is notthose who walk them ,it's those that govern them
Totally Dictatorial
One small example
Right of way going across your back lawn where your yoing kids play every day
Quite happy to provide a path outside of the lawn at my own expense. The short distance about the same , after a long battle it was reluctantly decided I could move at it the cost of over £2000

 

[essex man]

The problem is notthose who walk them ,it's those that govern them
Totally Dictatorial
One small example
Right of way going across your back lawn where your yoing kids play every day
Quite happy to provide a path outside of the lawn at my own expense. The short distance about the same , after a long battle it was reluctantly decided I could move at it the cost of over £2000

The problem is those who walk them when they pick up your equipment and throw into crop just before harvest

 

[Swarfmonkey]

I do wonder that some members of the public are either consciously or subconsciously , “Left Wing” and begrudge farmers owning land. To me “Lefties” think along the lines “what’s yours is mine, what’s mine is my own”.

Politics or just innate jealousy of what others have? Could be either.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I am a walker and tbh, I find the prows a disgrace on farmland. I don’t like to trespass but am constantly finding them overgrown in the summer, no direct/ flattened path on crop fields and hidden or no way marks at all.
One farmer informed me I shouldn’t be walking on this area of his land, I answered him calmly and politely…….That there was no P Footpath signage, the route across the field was completely inaccessible and that the only way through was to walk round the edge of his field. Basically sort it out of I will have no other choice than to walk this route.

Signage responsibility lies with your local council, you need to inform them, not the person who happens to own the land adjacent to the footpath.

There needs to be a rationalisation of the footpath system, where, it is possible to easily re route them to better suit both walkers and landowners. I believe the ramblers association automatically oppose any application to alter an existing footpath, which makes the whole thing very expensive (and uncertain).

And, if we are talking about ramblers, footpaths were originally for getting from A to B, not exercising dogs, or hanging bags of dog excrement on fences or trees.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Signage responsibility lies with your local council, you need to inform them, not the person who happens to own the land adjacent to the footpath.

There needs to be a rationalisation of the footpath system, where, it is possible to easily re route them to better suit both walkers and landowners. I believe the ramblers association automatically oppose any application to alter an existing footpath, which makes the whole thing very expensive (and uncertain).

And, if we are talking about ramblers, footpaths were originally for getting from A to B, not exercising dogs, or hanging bags of dog excrement on fences or trees.

That's exactly why most farms around here have footpaths through the yards

 

[essexpete]

Mmm i fulfill all my obligations, i would say 50% of the public do the same.
Council guide doesn't mention dogs which is unhelpful

Are you south of the A12?

 

[Nearly]

I block all gateways and gaps into my field that aren't rights of way.
I still get this.

The owner was 20 yards to the left, not on a footpath.
Pic taken but not going to post it.
He got the full benefit of my agricultural language.
His only response was 'I used to be a magistrate, I know about trespass.'

There's little hope if the retired, upper middle classes think they have rights to do this.
He's getting shamed on village fb page.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Had one come all excited in tears walking on my veg plants.

"I've lost my dog its a red setter, I go out every night to run him through the long grass (winter barley) & he has run off & I'm flying to Turkey tomorrow"

Where do you start?

 

[Devil's advocate]

Where is the register land owners can sign to prevent new footpaths from been made, by tresspass & pulling walls down, cutting wire etc.

 

[Red Fred]

I watch a young couple on Youtube who make local history videos about old railways, canals, Roman Roads, etc, and they are mostly enjoyable but they get a real bee in their bonnet about land ownership. A recent video explained how ludicrous it was that since the areas of Public Access Land had been created, there was not always an automatic right of way to get to it.
The idea seemed to be that farmers should provide styles, safe footpaths, etc for the one afternoon a year that Paul and Rebecca might want to go there for a look. They often argue that since farmers all get "Tax subsidies (???)"then everyone should have a right to roam where they like at our expense.
This week they made a film about Cirencester Park, which has been free to access for 300 years but the owners have decided to bring in a one off £10 ticket scheme for locals, which is returnable on handing back the ticket, to enable restoration of the Grade 1 park. The hateful comments from the leftie mob have to be seen to be believed. The 300 years they had it for free seem to have gone completely un-noticed but as dad said, "No good deed goes unpunished."

 

[Pilatus]

I watch a young couple on Youtube who make local history videos about old railways, canals, Roman Roads, etc, and they are mostly enjoyable but they get a real bee in their bonnet about land ownership. A recent video explained how ludicrous it was that since the areas of Public Access Land had been created, there was not always an automatic right of way to get to it.
The idea seemed to be that farmers should provide styles, safe footpaths, etc for the one afternoon a year that Paul and Rebecca might want to go there for a look. They often argue that since farmers all get "Tax subsidies (???)"then everyone should have a right to roam where they like at our expense.
This week they made a film about Cirencester Park, which has been free to access for 300 years but the owners have decided to bring in a one off £10 ticket scheme for locals, which is returnable on handing back the ticket, to enable restoration of the Grade 1 park. The hateful comments from the leftie mob have to be seen to be believed. The 300 years they had it for free seem to have gone completely un-noticed but as dad said, "No good deed goes unpunished."

I live quite close to Cirencester park . One of the problems now is that it’s become a real tourist attraction, so needs more up keep and sadly more litter to be picked up.
Also I have been told it’s nothing to see up to 6 commercial dog walkers vans parked , and the commercial dog walkers walking up up to six dogs and more in the park up until now for free, meanwhile the dog walkers are getting paid.
So I can partly understand why an entrance fee to the Park is now in force.
Mind you it’s so huge I think it will be a job to police the idea.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

That's trespassing.
It's your responsibility to know where the path is.
Not the farmer's.
If there is crop blocking the path then complain to the council, who will get straight on to farmer.
If it is overgrown with non crop vegetation then that is the council's responsibility.

It’s not trespass
You can take an alternative route to bypass an obstruction on a ROW
Perfectly legal to take a diversion to get around

 

[Nearly]

It’s not trespass
You can take an alternative route to bypass an obstruction on a ROW
Perfectly legal to take a diversion to get around

not going to 'like' but I agree with you.

 

[yellow belly]

There are 5 footpaths on my farm that cross the a1 the central reservation barrier blocks each one
The council still insist the footpath is cleared even though you would be would be mad to cross the a1 at each one

 

[Johnnyboxer]

not going to 'like' but I agree with you.

I know - but that precedent is set, to divert (in as short a distance as is practical) around any overgrown/obstructed ROW including Bridleways/BOATS and Byways/unmetalled roads

 

[essex man]

Are you south of the A12?

Yes

 

[essexpete]

Yes

Could not be worse.

 

[Nearly]

I know - but that precedent is set, to divert (in as short a distance as is practical) around any overgrown/obstructed ROW including Bridleways/BOATS and Byways/unmetalled roads

or around fields of livestock too I believe.
I'd rather people walked around cattle than felt afraid.
walk softly and carry a big stick.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

or around fields of livestock too I believe.
I'd rather people walked around cattle than felt afraid.
walk softly and carry a big stick.

True
You can bypass livestock on a ROW if you feel uneasy, by using another adjacent empty field & then get back into the current correct ROW route