How much land can a person process ?

Turkish_FR

Member
Mixed Farmer
How much land can a person alone process considering for the products below ?

Potatoes:

Domatoes:

Onion:

Wheat:

Rice:

Maize:

Chickpea:

Barley:
 
It is a very weird question because although I have owned and operated (mainly single-handedly) five farms in four countries in both hemispheres I have never had one property where all could be grown.

I will make an effort to answer. My father and I used to grow a bit more than an acre of potatoes and dig them by hand. It was enough. I grew about 5 to 6 acres with my wife and father on the Ferguson planter behind a Little Grey. I bought a lifter and the three of us could harvest them.

I have only grown about 200/250 tomato plants a year (outdoors) and I presume that is what you meant, but mistyped. I did all the work myself.

I have never grown (on a commercial scale) onions, wheat or rice. I have grown and hand harvested 2 acres of grain maize.

I once grew about 20 acres of chickpeas and 2000 acres (yes, two thousand) of barley in the same year, along with 200 acres of millet, soybeans, mung beans, oats, with about 400 head of cattle and 1500 sheep at the same time.

Given the right land and bigger equipment there are people in Australia that I know of and probably Canada and the US who could single handedly comfortably work even bigger acreages of the cereals.

If it helps you, I currently have about 500 olive trees and 800 almonds, as well as maybe 100 grapevines and 20 or so other fruit and nut trees. I do all the work except that my wife helps with the olive harvest. I have plenty of time dto do other things.

As I said, it is a weird question. My answers are just as weird.
 
It is a very weird question because although I have owned and operated (mainly single-handedly) five farms in four countries in both hemispheres I have never had one property where all could be grown.

I will make an effort to answer. My father and I used to grow a bit more than an acre of potatoes and dig them by hand. It was enough. I grew about 5 to 6 acres with my wife and father on the Ferguson planter behind a Little Grey. I bought a lifter and the three of us could harvest them.

I have only grown about 200/250 tomato plants a year (outdoors) and I presume that is what you meant, but mistyped. I did all the work myself.

I have never grown (on a commercial scale) onions, wheat or rice. I have grown and hand harvested 2 acres of grain maize.

I once grew about 20 acres of chickpeas and 2000 acres (yes, two thousand) of barley in the same year, along with 200 acres of millet, soybeans, mung beans, oats, with about 400 head of cattle and 1500 sheep at the same time.

Given the right land and bigger equipment there are people in Australia that I know of and probably Canada and the US who could single handedly comfortably work even bigger acreages of the cereals.

If it helps you, I currently have about 500 olive trees and 800 almonds, as well as maybe 100 grapevines and 20 or so other fruit and nut trees. I do all the work except that my wife helps with the olive harvest. I have plenty of time dto do other things.

As I said, it is a weird question. My answers are just as weird.
Hope you don't mind me asking a few more questions, where are you now farming, how much land and what sort of living does it provide?
 
@Tarw Coch I do not mind at all. Where I am and what I do is widely known on this forum and generally to the world. Have a look at my website if you want to check out Google earth to see where I am.

I give my location on here as Inland Portugal. We are about 10 miles NW of Castelo Branco and the place is a bit under 7 ha. with a good 3bed 2bath house with the usual wine cellar, cheese store, olive store, meat house and smokeroom/bread oven that goes with houses of this size. Also an extensive range of buildings, a lot more than normal for this size of place, but it previously had more land with it that was sold off before we bought. It is all irrigated via underground mains and drip irrigation for the treees. Also a venturi to supply fertigation.

We do not need to make a living from it as we have some pension income, about the equivalent of a UK standard OAP I think. It needs a lot less here than in the UK and we live very well. Obviously we could not have the same standard on the same income there.

The land (and house to some extent) was quite neglected when we bought, with only 77 old olive trees and half the house not developed. It was originally an olive mill and had had a conversion to a couple of bedrooms, kitchen and bathroom as well as the storerooms. A decent place to eat and rest is very low on the priority list in Portugal, probably not even on it.

We extended the living accommodation. I have not completed the development of the land, but reckon I am making progress since I brought the land into cultivation (some of it for the first time ever, including the last wee bit this winter) and planted the trees. My wife helped with the first 300, but then decided to make a few ornamental gardens around the house so has a fair bit to do outside on her own account in addition to the general housework cooking, preserves etc.

The olives are almost all into production and my wife and I share the picking of them. We wear fruit picking pinnies and hand pick individual fruit into them (about 1490kgs last harvest) to ensure undamaged better quality fruit. The almonds have only been in the ground a year. Still a fair bit of work, with a lot of pruning still to be done. I have to form the framework of the required scaffold branches this time. The grapes and other fruit trees were established when we bought. My wine is drinkable - by my son and me, but I do not even offer it to anyone else.

Once the trees are in full production (and I am trialling some pistachios to see how they go) possibly planting up another hectare or so, then obviously it will be capable of making an income of sufficient to live from it. In the meantime I put everything back into it. It is my "pension pot" if I eventually retire from here, otherwise it is the means of purchasing the next place. We have an inkling to try the Açores before we do retire. I am only 73 after all. Plenty of time before I need to think about retirement, although I rarely put in more than 40 hours a week now. I do more if needs be, but I like to think I work smart. I take long meal and refreshment breaks through the day too.The irrigation system I set up takes very little work compared to cannons or sprinklers, and the venturi saves a few days a year too.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
@Tarw Coch I do not mind at all. Where I am and what I do is widely known on this forum and generally to the world. Have a look at my website if you want to check out Google earth to see where I am.

I give my location on here as Inland Portugal. We are about 10 miles NW of Castelo Branco and the place is a bit under 7 ha. with a good 3bed 2bath house with the usual wine cellar, cheese store, olive store, meat house and smokeroom/bread oven that goes with houses of this size. Also an extensive range of buildings, a lot more than normal for this size of place, but it previously had more land with it that was sold off before we bought. It is all irrigated via underground mains and drip irrigation for the treees. Also a venturi to supply fertigation.

We do not need to make a living from it as we have some pension income, about the equivalent of a UK standard OAP I think. It needs a lot less here than in the UK and we live very well. Obviously we could not have the same standard on the same income there.

The land (and house to some extent) was quite neglected when we bought, with only 77 old olive trees and half the house not developed. It was originally an olive mill and had had a conversion to a couple of bedrooms, kitchen and bathroom as well as the storerooms. A decent place to eat and rest is very low on the priority list in Portugal, probably not even on it.

We extended the living accommodation. I have not completed the development of the land, but reckon I am making progress since I brought the land into cultivation (some of it for the first time ever, including the last wee bit this winter) and planted the trees. My wife helped with the first 300, but then decided to make a few ornamental gardens around the house so has a fair bit to do outside on her own account in addition to the general housework cooking, preserves etc.

The olives are almost all into production and my wife and I share the picking of them. We wear fruit picking pinnies and hand pick individual fruit into them (about 1490kgs last harvest) to ensure undamaged better quality fruit. The almonds have only been in the ground a year. Still a fair bit of work, with a lot of pruning still to be done. I have to form the framework of the required scaffold branches this time. The grapes and other fruit trees were established when we bought. My wine is drinkable - by my son and me, but I do not even offer it to anyone else.

Once the trees are in full production (and I am trialling some pistachios to see how they go) possibly planting up another hectare or so, then obviously it will be capable of making an income of sufficient to live from it. In the meantime I put everything back into it. It is my "pension pot" if I eventually retire from here, otherwise it is the means of purchasing the next place. We have an inkling to try the Açores before we do retire. I am only 73 after all. Plenty of time before I need to think about retirement, although I rarely put in more than 40 hours a week now. I do more if needs be, but I like to think I work smart. I take long meal and refreshment breaks through the day too.The irrigation system I set up takes very little work compared to cannons or sprinklers, and the venturi saves a few days a year too.


If you did make a move to the acores, what would you like to do there?
 
@czechmate It would depend on which island we chose, or were able to buy a place on - outside the towns there are not a lot of places available.

There is a big difference in weather between Santa Maria and Flores (pronounced Floresh). My wife is inclined to SM, but I like Flores (or even Corvo, but she says no to living on an island called "Crow") because of one of England's greatest heroes - Sir Richard Granville. Read the story everybody if you do not know it. Tennyson's poem 'The Revenge' begins "At Flores in the Azores (pronounced Azoresh) Sir Richard Granville lay". It is a 'must know' story for everyone who is English.

Back on topic, it would not be a long-term stay and we would probably just be looking for a house in a rural setting with a bit of a garden. Practice for retirement in the Far North. Problem is we had decided to sort of semi-retire when we decided to move here. We thought we were more decrepit than we now appear to be. Maybe the sunshine helps.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
@czechmate It would depend on which island we chose, or were able to buy a place on - outside the towns there are not a lot of places available.

There is a big difference in weather between Santa Maria and Flores (pronounced Floresh). My wife is inclined to SM, but I like Flores (or even Corvo, but she says no to living on an island called "Crow") because of one of England's greatest heroes - Sir Richard Granville. Read the story everybody if you do not know it. Tennyson's poem 'The Revenge' begins "At Flores in the Azores (pronounced Azoresh) Sir Richard Granville lay". It is a 'must know' story for everyone who is English.

Back on topic, it would not be a long-term stay and we would probably just be looking for a house in a rural setting with a bit of a garden. Practice for retirement in the Far North. Problem is we had decided to sort of semi-retire when we decided to move here. We thought we were more decrepit than we now appear to be. Maybe the sunshine helps.
Had to look that up as Sir Richard Grenville was commander of the Cornish army, so was a bit surprised by you saying a English hero but there were 2 Sir Richard Grenville s (maybe more ). Worth looking both up .
 

Turkish_FR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Just in case you are still partaking of the same drugs, perhaps you could tell me how many dancing bears one can get in a dolmush? ;)

I dont know, I could only be on milkshake or banana milk two years ago. My old posts are soo childish and weird. I dont claim I have "normal" ideas nowadays but at least they are more logical, relatively.
 

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