Hurricanes across the Atlantic, are we next ?

pappuller

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Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
As per the title the weather seems to be really ramping up bigstyle this hurricane season across the Atlantic, so will the remnants of these storms trip across on the conveyor that is the Jetstream ? I have always been told that we get the remains of these storms a few weeks after.
 

KMA

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Location
Dumfriesshire
If I remember right from previous events the after effects seem to travel up the east coast of North America, where they're picked up by the stream of weather that brings a continuous stream of depressions in from the North Atlantic at this time of year so we'll probably get the remains in 10-14 days. I notice there seems to be a fair number of lows in the system already, so my very amateur and unscientific guess is even chiller and wetter than normal for the rest of the month.
 

pine_guy

Member
Location
North Cumbria
What happens if the weather destroys a crop; is it just tough luck?

Me; being an ignorant townie, I know nuffink! Or very little!

Chris :)

Yeah, we are heading towards salvage operation where everything is a bonus. Pleased I didn't go in and spray/kill mine off like my neighbour did last week to combat the uneven ripening. He's looking like danger off heads starting to drop off looking at the forecast.
 

KMA

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
@Christoph1945 That's the difference between Ag and any other industry.

Manufacturing you know your costs and end price before you make anything it generally isn't more than a week from the raw materials coming in the door to the finished product leaving and there's precious little that can affect you.

Ag by the nature of the product takes months, years for some crops it's decades from starting to grow it until it's ready to sell, even then pests, weather and disease can wipe the whole lot in hours/days.
 
Drove down to North East Wales this morning and passed through torrential downpours on the M56/A55 but just returned through a beautiful autumn evening; bloody Welsh weather is no better than our English weather!

Each day that I spend on TFF I learn a "little" more about farming and some of the problems facing you good folk. Bad weather destroying crops, badgers spreading TB, poor compensation for stock loss due to TB, thefts from farms, trespassers, lampers and hare coursers, and fuel thefts, to name but a few. Not to mention belligerent bulls, more suited to a Roman amphitheater, and a whole host of pests, and stock and crop diseases.

It's no wonder that some farming folk get depressed!

KMA, some other industries are often making none essentials and convincing us that we need their products. It strikes me that you farmers are super achievers,
who are producing our very life blood and you are poorly recognized for your work.

Stay safe, stay well, and take care.

Chris :)

ps...............what's the point of tagging or being tagged?
 

KMA

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
I use tagging to draw the attention of particular poster just in case they've lost interest in a thread, it's a bit like for the attention of on an envelope/package or attn. joe bloggs on a note. Dunno if that's the right use or not.
 

casemx 270

Member
Location
East midlands
Drove down to North East Wales this morning and passed through torrential downpours on the M56/A55 but just returned through a beautiful autumn evening; bloody Welsh weather is no better than our English weather!

Each day that I spend on TFF I learn a "little" more about farming and some of the problems facing you good folk. Bad weather destroying crops, badgers spreading TB, poor compensation for stock loss due to TB, thefts from farms, trespassers, lampers and hare coursers, and fuel thefts, to name but a few. Not to mention belligerent bulls, more suited to a Roman amphitheater, and a whole host of pests, and stock and crop diseases.

It's no wonder that some farming folk get depressed!

KMA, some other industries are often making none essentials and convincing us that we need their products. It strikes me that you farmers are super achievers,
who are producing our very life blood and you are poorly recognized for your work.

Stay safe, stay well, and take care.

Chris :)

ps...............what's the point of tagging or being tagged?
I wish more people took a positive interest in farming people have become too far removed from where food really comes from not just the supermarket
 
Thanks KMA; got it now! :)

casemx....................although a farm ignorant townie, I totally agree with you! There used to be a time (and I can still remember it) when our worlds overlapped. Come harvest time many people would be drafted in to help lift the spud, peas, and other crops. The Anglican Church also used to celebrate harvest and local farmers would come and join the congregation for the celebration.

With the onset of automated harvesting machines and the decline in churchgoing, the overlap has slowly dissipated and vanished like a dawn mist. Perhaps the only overlap that exists now are the farm shops and farmer's markets but the time spent there is very brief for us townies. Oh, I have forgotten "Open Farm Days" but sadly have never attended one.

I do know of some folk who just love to watch Country File and perhaps that program could do more to educate the general public but seeing their reticence to cover the badger problem in any real depth; I'm not going to hold my breath.

What about the production of an educational cd "where our foods come from" that the super markets could hand out free to customers. Or has that already been done. Mind you, that could be counter productive and lead to a downturn in meat sales when softhearted people suddenly go vegetarian!

Back to the storm................it is certainly looking extremely bad for the east coast of America.
 

casemx 270

Member
Location
East midlands
Thanks KMA; got it now! :)

casemx....................although a farm ignorant townie, I totally agree with you! There used to be a time (and I can still remember it) when our worlds overlapped. Come harvest time many people would be drafted in to help lift the spud, peas, and other crops. The Anglican Church also used to celebrate harvest and local farmers would come and join the congregation for the celebration.

With the onset of automated harvesting machines and the decline in churchgoing, the overlap has slowly dissipated and vanished like a dawn mist. Perhaps the only overlap that exists now are the farm shops and farmer's markets but the time spent there is very brief for us townies. Oh, I have forgotten "Open Farm Days" but sadly have never attended one.

I do know of some folk who just love to watch Country File and perhaps that program could do more to educate the general public but seeing their reticence to cover the badger problem in any real depth; I'm not going to hold my breath.

What about the production of an educational cd "where our foods come from" that the super markets could hand out free to customers. Or has that already been done. Mind you, that could be counter productive and lead to a downturn in meat sales when softhearted people suddenly go vegetarian!

Back to the storm................it is certainly looking extremely bad for the east coast of America.
Totally agree, I think we should do more to help rebuild the link between farming and consumers because there are plenty of people who want to destroy our markets one way or another.
 
It just occurred to me that Country File could also do an in depth program on the human costs of depression in the farming world and some of it's causes, as well as produce an educational cd on where our food comes from and the true cost of production. It may upset TESCO and tothers though!

Anyone know how to set the ball rolling?

I, for some reason, thought that ASDA was farmer owned before the sellouts. Was I wrong in my belief?
 

KMA

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
Sadly it's like most things, folk simply aren't interested in anything outside their immediate sphere, when it comes to food, as long as it's cheap and plentiful they couldn't give a toss so thankyou Christoph1945 for taking more than a passing interest. Doesn't matter how or where it's produced or they'd grow a lot more of it at home. The only thing that may help British farmers at some point in the distant future is if the cost of transporting imported stuff increased massively.

In the meantime all we can expect is the usual heaps of opprobrium and the occasional lip service from those who want our money (or more likely) votes.
 

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