My perception, without reading every last bit of the label, is that K-obiol and talisma are similar and probably slightly safer for the applier and the environment than the actellic which is an OP. However someone with more knowledge may be able to correct me.Was offered either that or talisma by agronomist as no longer stock k orbiol.
Checks out
ACTELLIC 50 EC
ACTELLIC 50EC is a persistent, broad spectrum insecticide for the control of a wide range of insect pests in stored grain.www.syngenta.co.uk
I’ve got bugs
- Thread starter Adeptandy
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- worcestershire
I think it was the “actellic-d” that was removed from the approved list and since then actellic 50 has been available.. (same ingredients, different label and product registration number I think.)
- Location
- Snodland kent
bugs in grain silo that has an extraction fan and sealed roof. If I let off a smoke bomb in top of silo with fan running what are chances of it being sucked through grain?
Worth a try
Agreed but gut feel is that may only kill a few on the top. Surely the advantage of the bin is that you can fairly easily spray with insecticide as it comes out through an auger/conveyor at a known rate? Also I'm surprised the grain went wrong in the bin, usually they are better ventilated than a flat floor? Any thoughts why it went wrong @Northdowns Martin?
Was the grain dried before it was put in bin ?
If there is an adjacent empty silo, transfering from one to the other is usually enough to kill bugs. The mechanical damage from the Augers to their skin causes them to dehydrate.
Sucker blowers are another effective non chemical way to control them.
- Location
- Snodland kent
No it was only cleaned, moisture level from drawn sample is 15.3% taken from the bottom. I have prep'd the next door bin and plan to spray grain on route. Tried the smoke bomb idea, definitly an Actelic aroma coming through the fan.
Smoke bomb may have worked ok ,I would check tomorrow before spraying
How did you get on with bugs ?
- Location
- Snodland kent
They appear to have died. Managed to get some cold night air through the silo. Will put through the cleaner, hopefully that will be the end.
- Location
- Huntingdon
Best get gone before it warms up again next year, as there will likely be eggs
only gassing seems to kill the eggs.
For notes, kobiol doesn’t penetrate the waxy plug they seal the eggs behind.
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Woldgrain Storage
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- Hemswell, North Lincs
Fingers crossed.
Might be worth sieving some into a tray and bringing them up to room temperature to double check.
We have a lamp with a built in magnifier that we use to look for passengers. Only cost about £30.
- Location
- Snodland kent
good idea will take a sample home this evening
- Location
- Westish Suffolk
Small merchant contact of mine saying they're getting 4 or 5 bug rejections a day..
Expensive business after redirection, never mind getting it cleaned up.
Expensive business after redirection, never mind getting it cleaned up.
Why so many,was grain not cooled down coming out of drier or /and in store?
- Location
- Westish Suffolk
Perhaps. Another possibility would be damp grain from harvest, not conditioned in store, and then followed by a mild and wet autumn. We've only had a handful of frosts in East Anglia so far, and 10C today.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
This kind of thread seriously worries me. I’m not sure all or any actellic smoke generators are approved for use in stored grain, only for use in empty stores. Please read the directions for use very carefully and only under take insecticide treatment of stored grain if you are qualified.
There’s the potential to seriously contaminate large quantities of grain with some fairly obnoxious chemicals if we aren’t careful and nobody in their right mind wants that.
Just saying. Be careful folks.
There’s the potential to seriously contaminate large quantities of grain with some fairly obnoxious chemicals if we aren’t careful and nobody in their right mind wants that.
Just saying. Be careful folks.
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