Idiots guide to sowing with a one pass

[KB6930]

silly question alert

Combi drilling - headlands first or last ?

Last . Any rolled over stuff when turning in corners always struggles to get through so you wouldn't want it along an endrig .

 

[KB6930]

4 widths on 28 metres would be alright if he's not putting in an endrig tramline with the drill and putting it in with the sprayer instead, if he is tramlining his endrig with the drill then 5 would be better or the drill will likely be dropping in and sowing where the inside tramline would be.

Is the tramline not the middle of the 4th run for 28 with a 4m or am I counting wrong

 

[milton-95]

Is the tramline not the middle of the 4th run for 28 with a 4m or am I counting wrong

Be tramlining on the 4th width yeah. Tramlines would be where drill tractor tyres had run.

 

[KB6930]

Be tramlining on the 4th width yeah.

Yeah so 4 is all that's needed ?

 

[milton-95]

Yeah so 4 is all that's needed ?

Yes, but you've to be very precise with where you lift in and out without sowing where the inside tramline will be .

 

[KB6930]

Yes, but you've to be very precise with where you lift in and out without sowing where the inside tramline will be .

Why ?

You're gonna overlap somewhere whether it's the 4th or 5th run so doesn't matter where . And the further you are out into the field the worse it is to judge the distance. You still see the tramline through the overlap bits anyway or am I just being too rough

 

[milton-95]

Why ?

You're gonna overlap somewhere whether it's the 4th or 5th run so doesn't matter where . And the further you are out into the field the worse it is to judge the distance. You still see the tramline through the overlap bits anyway or am I just being too rough

Just the way I was learnt, I'd have got a bollocking for sowing through the tramline .

We're on 20 metre here and tramline on 3 but sow 4 widths.

 

[KB6930]

Just the way I was learnt, I'd have got a bollocking for sowing through the tramline .

We're on 20 metre here and tramline on 3 but sow 4 widths.

We just do sowing for idiots around here so anything goes as long as it's smooth and it all turns green

 

[Chae1]

I do the outside then drill, run 6 on the inside as a mark to lift in/out at. Then when doing headlands drill run 2 on outside. Then move to inside. Run 5. That way you can have @Slim shady corners. Backing in each time.

No wheel marks left when you leave field.Drill centre first then just continually round and round. Let's your headland tramline be exactly off fence, so sprayer booms not hitting it. Throw up a AB line for first run on inside with some overlap to take out wobbly bits on headland pass.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Depends if your on gps, if your putting headland tramline in, are you on ploughed land or worked land, do you leave a headland all the way around field or start next to hedge/fence

 

[Farmer Fin]

I do the outside then drill, run 6 on the inside as a mark to lift in/out at. Then when doing headlands drill run 2 on outside. Then move to inside. Run 5. That way you can have @Slim shady corners. Backing in each time.

No wheel marks left when you leave field.Drill centre first then just continually round and round. Let's your headland tramline be exactly off fence, so sprayer booms not hitting it. Throw up a AB line for first run on inside with some overlap to take out wobbly bits on headland pass.

Sorry not sure what you mean. You drill around the boundary when mapping the field then drill run 6 for your marker for your in and out? Is that correct? Are you not sometimes left with tracks when lifting and lowering on run 6 when doing the centre. Maybe your 900s help?

 

[Dukes Fit]

On 4m/28m here.

I first run round the field on the endrig tramline (4th round) with my marker out in to the centre of the field so it's in the middle of the 5th run and that's my mark to lift out and drop my front tank.

Depends also on your forward speed, if going a bit slower in ploughed ground I'll lift when my front axle touches. If going a bit quicker on broken in ground I'll lift when the metering wheel on the tank crosses my mark.

You'll develop a feeling for it but better to lift a little bit later/drop in a bit earlier or drive in to the run a little slower to make sure you've no missed bits. An overlap is always better than a gap.

Finish the field with 5 runs around the outside.

I've never had anyone to give me any teachings so just had to learn as I went. Been a few times where I've had to sit on the endrig for 5 minutes and have a think about the best way to tackle an odd shaped field.

If you've never made a mistake sowing, then you've never sowed.

 

[Farmer Fin]

On 4m/28m here.

I first run round the field on the endrig tramline (4th round) with my marker out in to the centre of the field so it's in the middle of the 5th run and that's my mark to lift out and drop my front tank.

Depends also on your forward speed, if going a bit slower in ploughed ground I'll lift when my front axle touches. If going a bit quicker on broken in ground I'll lift when the metering wheel on the tank crosses my mark.

You'll develop a feeling for it but better to lift a little bit later/drop in a bit earlier or drive in to the run a little slower to make sure you've no missed bits. An overlap is always better than a gap.

Finish the field with 5 runs around the outside.

I've never had anyone to give me any teachings so just had to learn as I went. Been a few times where I've had to sit on the endrig for 5 minutes and have a think about the best way to tackle an odd shaped field.

If you've never made a mistake sowing, then you've never sowed.

Do you go round the boundary first to know where your tramline will be? I can set an inner boundary on the gps which will beep when passing. Haven’t tried it yet so not sure how good it will be.

 

[Chae1]

Sorry not sure what you mean. You drill around the boundary when mapping the field then drill run 6 for your marker for your in and out? Is that correct? Are you not sometimes left with tracks when lifting and lowering on run 6 when doing the centre. Maybe your 900s help?

Yes drill round outside first to map it. Then put another mark in 6 runs in to judge where to lift. I sow seed and fert at normal rate doing these passes.

I always pull power harrow through run 6. So leaves no tracks, wheel marks. Just lift. Metering wheel/front hopper so seed/fert runs out when going through it and minimise overlap.

 

[fermerboy]

One pass operation, not hard really.
Just the usual stuff.
Make sure the front fan is on, mine is fert on front, grain on back, and once that front fan spool is on I never stop it, so easy to stop for a fill/lunch/take a call and set off without it running.
Dont answer the phone!!
As with any drill, get off the seat and check its sowing properly and you don't have a blocked pipe, not hard to run your hand under the coulters to check air flow every fill. Damp weather can be a pain with a blowing by the cab job.

6 runs of headland here with 3m one pass.
With the boundary saved in the GPS previously, I autosteer along run number 6 with the drill lifted leaving a set of wheel marks and aim to lift on the inside wheel mark giving about a 50cm overlap.
Sow field up and down, then when finishing using the autosteer anyway start on the inside (run 6) and sow round and round for 6 times in my case and you finish on the last run next the fence heading for the gate if you plan it right. Tidy as F**k!!

 

[Dukes Fit]

Do you go round the boundary first to know where your tramline will be? I can set an inner boundary on the gps which will beep when passing. Haven’t tried it yet so not sure how good it will be.

If you're on GPS then yeah definitely go round the outermost run first to map the field then you'll have everything you need and you'll know exactly where your tramline run is. Might not even need to put in an endrig mark if you can set it up so it tells you when you lift. I'm still on the mk1 eyeball so have to put in a mark.

Time consuming when you want to get on so might be an idea to run round with just the tractor if you've ever any spare time before hand. At least then it's all done and it's there forever more.

Lad I know not far from me was mapping out field boundaries with just the tractor a few weeks ago on a Saturday ready for when sowing comes.

Usual stuff to remember. Check all your spouts for air every time you fill up. Run your hand under and also give the pipes a shake. You might still be getting air but if you've a pipe each for seed and fert one could be blocked. I've also seen me give the metering wheel a half turn or a quick pre start on the control box with the coulters just above the ground and you'll get a little bit out in the ground as a physical check. Don't stop with your drill in the ground, always make sure you lift and lower it when travelling forward.
Depending on how you're putting in tramlines, remember to check your tramlining number just before you lift out and recheck it's correct when you drop back in. Pay double attention to it on endrigs! One of my drills tramlines on run 4 and the other on run 7

If you freeze the advance remember to unfreeze it!

I've dry wipe markers in the cab, anything I need to remember I write on the cab glass and can easily wipe it off after.

In my cab diary I write....
Date
Field name
Seed type and rate
Fert analysis and rate
Area sowed
Amount of seed/fert through the drill
Fuel used
Which direction it was sowed.

You won't have to worry about checking your work afterwards, your neighbour will tell you soon enough

 

[Farmer Fin]

If you're on GPS then yeah definitely go round the outermost run first to map the field then you'll have everything you need and you'll know exactly where your tramline run is. Might not even need to put in an endrig mark if you can set it up so it tells you when you lift. I'm still on the mk1 eyeball so have to put in a mark.

Time consuming when you want to get on so might be an idea to run round with just the tractor if you've ever any spare time before hand. At least then it's all done and it's there forever more.

Lad I know not far from me was mapping out field boundaries with just the tractor a few weeks ago on a Saturday ready for when sowing comes.

Usual stuff to remember. Check all your spouts for air every time you fill up. Run your hand under and also give the pipes a shake. You might still be getting air but if you've a pipe each for seed and fert one could be blocked. I've also seen me give the metering wheel a half turn or a quick pre start on the control box with the coulters just above the ground and you'll get a little bit out in the ground as a physical check. Don't stop with your drill in the ground, always make sure you lift and lower it when travelling forward.
Depending on how you're putting in tramlines, remember to check your tramlining number just before you lift out and recheck it's correct when you drop back in. Pay double attention to it on endrigs! One of my drills tramlines on run 4 and the other on run 7

If you freeze the advance remember to unfreeze it!

I've dry wipe markers in the cab, anything I need to remember I write on the cab glass and can easily wipe it off after.

In my cab diary I write....
Date
Field name
Seed type and rate
Fert analysis and rate
Area sowed
Amount of seed/fert through the drill
Fuel used
Which direction it was sowed.

You won't have to worry about checking your work afterwards, your neighbour will tell you soon enough

First field we always end up sowing is opposite the entrance to the farm. There will be no hiding!

 

[Dukes Fit]

First field we always end up sowing is opposite the entrance to the farm. There will be no hiding!

That's usually the way, at least if you're on autosteer you don't have to worry about it being straight

Do you tramline with the drill and is your metering on a landwheel or electric?

 

[Farmer Fin]

That's usually the way, at least if you're on autosteer you don't have to worry about it being straight

Do you tramline with the drill and is your metering on a landwheel or electric?

Tramline with the drill and electric metering. It’s just going to be remembering the sequences at the ins and the outs.

 

[Chae1]

If you're on GPS then yeah definitely go round the outermost run first to map the field then you'll have everything you need and you'll know exactly where your tramline run is. Might not even need to put in an endrig mark if you can set it up so it tells you when you lift. I'm still on the mk1 eyeball so have to put in a mark.

Time consuming when you want to get on so might be an idea to run round with just the tractor if you've ever any spare time before hand. At least then it's all done and it's there forever more.

Lad I know not far from me was mapping out field boundaries with just the tractor a few weeks ago on a Saturday ready for when sowing comes.

Usual stuff to remember. Check all your spouts for air every time you fill up. Run your hand under and also give the pipes a shake. You might still be getting air but if you've a pipe each for seed and fert one could be blocked. I've also seen me give the metering wheel a half turn or a quick pre start on the control box with the coulters just above the ground and you'll get a little bit out in the ground as a physical check. Don't stop with your drill in the ground, always make sure you lift and lower it when travelling forward.
Depending on how you're putting in tramlines, remember to check your tramlining number just before you lift out and recheck it's correct when you drop back in. Pay double attention to it on endrigs! One of my drills tramlines on run 4 and the other on run 7

If you freeze the advance remember to unfreeze it!

I've dry wipe markers in the cab, anything I need to remember I write on the cab glass and can easily wipe it off after.

In my cab diary I write....
Date
Field name
Seed type and rate
Fert analysis and rate
Area sowed
Amount of seed/fert through the drill
Fuel used
Which direction it was sowed.

You won't have to worry about checking your work afterwards, your neighbour will tell you soon enough

The outside runs to sow anyway.

So how's it going to be more time consuming?