Ifor TA510 or DP120?

[Northeastfarmer]

You should......but that's up to you. I'd fancy a Nugent would get close on a deal, plenty of dealers for them around now. I know which I'd rather have (or a GE)

I've always had ifors and been very happy with them so not fussed about swapping brands...if I could justify it I'd have a houghton tomorrow

 

[JP1]

I've always had ifors and been very happy with them so not fussed about swapping brands...if I could justify it I'd have a houghton tomorrow

That T35 is a good trailer.

I have a DP120 without the canopy, a Graham Edwards 12ft trailer and a Porter 2-cow trailer

 

[beef 1]

Had ifor 12ft with wheels under since 197?, on about the 5th one now,
Have never looked at a wheels outside and thought, thats what i want.
Oncoming cars just do not see the wheels untill its too late

How do you know ?

 

[joe soapy]

How do you know ?

If you ever drove the sourton to hatherliegh road on market day, you would know,
Most amateurs choose outside wheels because they look safer, however, because of lack of abilty
to judge the width ofb their trailer and to prevent damaging the trailer tyres, they keep well off the hedge.. Most of the moorland boys choose wheels under for very good reasons

 

[Pulham Herefords]

I would always go with a trailer with wheels on the outside. We have a 14ft Tri axle Hudson and it's much better than our old Ifor Williams trailer.

 

[GTB]

If you ever drove the sourton to hatherliegh road on market day, you would know,
Most amateurs choose outside wheels because they look safer, however, because of lack of abilty
to judge the width ofb their trailer and to prevent damaging the trailer tyres, they keep well off the hedge.. Most of the moorland boys choose wheels under for very good reasons

Before buying our last trailer I was debating which type to get. Always had wheels under here but fancied wheels outside. Anyway, one night coming home from the other farm we have along a twisty B road in the dark and pissing down with rain, I came to meet a lorry and the bugger didn't slow down at all. I don't know how the hell he missed me. Had I had wheels outside, one set would have been in the hedge and the other set would have gone with the lorry. So I bought a 14ft GE with wheels under. At least with wheels under you know if your mirrors go through your trailer will follow.

 

[joe soapy]

Before buying our last trailer I was debating which type to get. Always had wheels under here but fancied wheels outside. Anyway, one night coming home from the other farm we have along a twisty B road in the dark and pissing down with rain, I came to meet a lorry and the bugger didn't slow down at all. I don't know how the hell he missed me. Had I had wheels outside, one set would have been in the hedge and the other set would have gone with the lorry. So I bought a 14ft GE with wheels under. At least with wheels under you know if your mirrors go through your trailer will follow.

Sometimes it takes one or two browntrouser moments to be convinced

 

[Penmoel]

Gamic have a reconditioned one for sale right now:

https://www.facebook.com/gamictrailersltd/posts/1708244949462620

S/H Ifor Williams 12ft Twin Axle Livestock Trailer

Fully Serviced - New Brake Cables, Brakes & Hitch

Good Tyres A/R

Wooden Decks

£1,550.00 + VAT

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Wooden decks , that would be well over 20 years old

Cos they're cheap ........................

You could rephrase that and say cost of ownership is low , its a big difference from just being cheap, Whatever anyone says they do sell second hand and they are the benchmark livestock by which every other make are judged.

You should......but that's up to you. I'd fancy a Nugent would get close on a deal, plenty of dealers for them around now. I know which I'd rather have (or a GE)

Nah , I looked at a Nugent nothing special , coupled with an unknown future second hand value made us go for the IW again.We are on I think our 5th DP120 over the years.

 

[Nithsdale]

You should......but that's up to you. I'd fancy a Nugent would get close on a deal, plenty of dealers for them around now. I know which I'd rather have (or a GE)

We have no intention to change trailers, our old Ifor is going fine... but if I get my way I think it be a Nugent next time (dealer is literally on my doorstep).

 

[fermerboy]

Thanks for all replies.

Answers to posts,
Multi power, the old tractor float is done, we are on the main road here and it needs to be up to spec.

SJH, Thanks for the offer of your Hudson, probably too much ££ will keep it in mind.

Pretty much what I thought, Ifor Williams are not the best on the market but sell heaps more because they have dealers and are priced well!!
Never see much else on the road round here, saw a T35 the other day going past, nice price I imagine!

Already have a 12ft flat with drop sides so having the detachable box is no advantage to me.

Will go and see whats available used, old man found a 14ft tri-axle for sale at good money, probably too big for my truck.

 

[neilo]

Before buying our last trailer I was debating which type to get. Always had wheels under here but fancied wheels outside. Anyway, one night coming home from the other farm we have along a twisty B road in the dark and pissing down with rain, I came to meet a lorry and the bugger didn't slow down at all. I don't know how the hell he missed me. Had I had wheels outside, one set would have been in the hedge and the other set would have gone with the lorry. So I bought a 14ft GE with wheels under. At least with wheels under you know if your mirrors go through your trailer will follow.

I opted for a 'wheels outside' one from Gamic, that is narrower than some. The overall width is about the same as the IW with wheels under, just more stable and tows much better. They do make them the same width as the 'wheels under' models, but with wheels outside that. I'd think that would be asking for trouble from both oncoming traffic on narrow roads, and from VOSA behind most farm trucks. My thinking was that there would be less temptation to be (quite so far) overloaded.

 

[jon115r]

510 very good easier to pull as well I had a shot of a dp on wed not very nice to tow

 

[GTB]

Thanks for all replies.

Answers to posts,
Multi power, the old tractor float is done, we are on the main road here and it needs to be up to spec.

SJH, Thanks for the offer of your Hudson, probably too much ££ will keep it in mind.

Pretty much what I thought, Ifor Williams are not the best on the market but sell heaps more because they have dealers and are priced well!!
Never see much else on the road round here, saw a T35 the other day going past, nice price I imagine!

Already have a 12ft flat with drop sides so having the detachable box is no advantage to me.

Will go and see whats available used, old man found a 14ft tri-axle for sale at good money, probably too big for my truck.

We have a 14ft trailer here and when it's full of cattle it needs a tractor in front which isn't such a problem on short runs. Lighter loads can be towed with a pickup without trouble, just make sure you use dividing gates.

Edit: Should have added that 14ft is far better for moving cows and calves or ewes and lambs as more space can be allowed. That extra 2ft makes a huge difference.

 

[S J H]

new iw are crap compared to the older ones. rang them to complain about one 9 month old rusting and rivets dropping out lights not working ect was told to paint rust with galvanised paint

How much is a 12ft Hudson with decks ?


I'd consider a Hudson.

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I'll pm a price later @borntohunt

 

[Matt]

Wheels on outside. We had one with wheels underneath, and had it roll over. Now got one with wheels on outside and seperate flat bed

 

[Penmoel]

As @GTB says the 14 is very handy the extra length is good , temptation to overload as far as weights is there though.

As for towing with a tractor, would not think of doing it, most of those 50mm towing ball pins are rated at 1500kg or less, the trailer empty is nearly that

https://www.trailertek.com/acatalog/Tractor-pin-and-ball-TBA127.html#SID=8

I would rather have 4t behind the Landrover in low box and stay on tarmac than risk one of those pins. Your trouble Dei I s you don't have a land rover any more just the Iseesuzi cart

 

[neilo]

As @GTB says the 14 is very handy the extra length is good , temptation to overload as far as weights is there though.

As for towing with a tractor, would not think of doing it, most of those 50mm towing ball pins are rated at 1500kg or less, the trailer empty is nearly that

Higher rated pins are readily available, but they cost a bit more, so everyone picks up the light duty ones and wonder why they bend (if they are lucky enough to get that warning).

I would rather have 4t behind the Landrover in low box and stay on tarmac than risk one of those pins. Your trouble Dei I s you don't have a land rover any more just the Iseesuzi cart

I was going to ask if he was using a LR. My old L200 always managed to pull a 14' trailer fully loaded with cattle or sheep around the farm roads at home. Obviously legally well overweight if that full and were to go on a public road, but certainly up to the job on all but the steepest hill.

 

[Lazy Eric]

We have an ifor, it's ok. It's a14ft tri axle and replaced a GE of the same. We find the decks and ramp easier to use but the build quality isn't as good . And as for after sales with ifor forget it!!!! I'm sure once a trailer leaves their place they don't want to know. I had trouble with the brake linings laminating when only 18 months old, all six of the sods!! Iw didn't want to know. Dealer was great they replaced em Foc but ifor didn't reimburse them. GE on other hand would try and sort any problems. I had three of their trailers.

 

[unlacedgecko]

I picked up a 2nd hand Graham Edwards from W Heaps Ltd in Chorley yesterday.

I'm really pleased with it so far, and it was very reasonably priced!

 

[Sussex Martin]

Don't get wheels underneath

Get one of these, much better .