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- NSW, Newstralya
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
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- NSW, Newstralya
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Dry Sheep Equivalent
1 mature Merino wether or dry ewe, at 45 - 50 kg, maintaining its body weight,
Dry Sheep Equivalent
1 mature Merino wether or dry ewe, at 45 - 50 kg, maintaining its body weight,
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Quite interesting, I have seen a table "somewhere" that showed the different stock unit equivalents for different weight gains in sheep and cattle and it actually clearly showed that larger and higher producing stock ate a lot more than you'd assume
We are getting a lot more kg of meat/area being overstocked than understocked as the actual number of days you can keep a steer growing 2.5kg+ are much less than the number of days you can have 2 growing 1.3kg+
It would be really interesting to take that even further to calculate just how much "potential" feed is consumed merely due to regrazing regrowth, I quite often emphasise that the 10kg my heifer eats today is 50kgs less for the main mob in 10 days time - wonder how correct that is?
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- NSW, Newstralya
Cow size ?
Does size matter? (That's cows we're talking about...) - Resource Consulting Services
Beef industries around the world have been besotted with growth and the gradual creation of elephants. The beliefs of “bigger is better” and “growth is paramount” have ruled decision making. Let’s ask ourselves though, what is it we want from our breeding herd?
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- Owaka, New Zealand
My mob waiting patiently for me to move them.
Will be great to get rid of stock next week and let the land recover, it's in need of a rest, carried a lot of stock for a long time.
And these hoggs need shorn! Over 12 month's wool on them
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One of many articles on the subject by Kit Pharo
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How Big is Big Enough? - Pharo Cattle Company
According to the USDA Research Center in Clay Center, Nebraska, the average Angus, Red Angus and Hereford cow in America weighs over 1,400 pounds. The status quo seedstock producers have successfully out-Simmentalled the Simmentals. Unfortunately, as cow size has increased, profitability has...
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Our Laura is striving for that she last weighed in at 958 in December that was 20 kg up on the year and only 90 kg behind the bull. I think one ton is her ambition, she is not the fattest cow we have though1000 kg cow
wow . . .
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- Owaka, New Zealand
That's an interesting point on "weaning weight" too, I wonder how they work that out, there was a post on here at some stage and the "weaning weights" were at different ages.
I will probably weigh these little critters at 200 days and weigh their dams at the same time, it will be interesting data to just keep squirrelled away for the future.
Frosty will be the best calf, not only is he the first born but also never more than a metre from mum's teats
I will probably weigh these little critters at 200 days and weigh their dams at the same time, it will be interesting data to just keep squirrelled away for the future.
Frosty will be the best calf, not only is he the first born but also never more than a metre from mum's teats
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- Owaka, New Zealand
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- NSW, Newstralya
Cow Size and Profitability - Pharo Cattle Company
By Kit Pharo For most of the last three decades, Pharo Cattle Company pretty much stood alone in promoting the benefits of smaller cows. Among the high-input, big-cow, status quo seedstock producers, we were the butt of many jokes. That did not bother us, though, because we knew we were...
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Oh dear Pete, you've given the calves names now! How are you going to 'de-stock' them when the time comes?
Have you got a photo
That's a seriously big unit!
Top pic is summer 18 the other is last march when she calved
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- Owaka, New Zealand
All our cattle are named, we don't tag things as we should because I am too lazy to do it and we don't have enough to confuse themOh dear Pete, you've given the calves names now! How are you going to 'de-stock' them when the time comes?
Frosty may or may not be a keeper
Storm, I think she is showing definite replacement material
Lucy, maybe not, she has funny flat feet, they have improved but still not steep.
BB probably a keeper too, we will keep all the bulls entire for the first year or 18 months because I'm not overly concerned about choosing genetics either, pretty sure the bulls can work out who gets to shoot the hoops.
All the heifers have now taken the bull, be interesting to see if any return or whether they hold to their first proper heat
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Nice looking cow, her head 'looks big' and I thought it would look small on a 950kg cow
Big calves
This turned up this morning And while I don't think it is as big as the last calve Laura had that was 68kg its not far off The bull calf needed a bit off help from me but nothing to much, the cow always seems to have big calves but no big fuss and the calves are up quick and do well So you hard...
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As I said she is not stupidly fat just big
She is a Hereford out of a Hereford cross holstein cow
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Quite an interesting wee thread, weren't threads short before Roy and I joined up?She will tip out a big calfBig calves
This turned up this morning And while I don't think it is as big as the last calve Laura had that was 68kg its not far off The bull calf needed a bit off help from me but nothing to much, the cow always seems to have big calves but no big fuss and the calves are up quick and do well So you hard...
Bloody part-timers clogging up the forum
I share your view on her, much like Lily the lim isn't really what I want as a cow, if she can give me a good calf and maybe rear others then all she really has to do is get in-calf smartish in order to stay on - the joys of multi-suckling I suppose, her udder is 3× more important than her own traits passed on
The only thing I will cull for is being empty or needing assistance
Woolless
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I'm one to talk. Sherbet, Juno and Minstrel are going for a holiday romance with my friend's bull in the spring!