"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

Kiwi Pete

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Looks a lot like it but I'm only 80% sure, @CornishTone can probably give a definite answer.
Mine have a slight bit of red at the beginning of the flower so probably where the name egg & bacon comes from.
The one we have here is quite different, it used to just be called "lotus major" but I think they reclassified it to L. corniculatus?

It's got a lot of little florets and they really do have a reddish tinge, Dad called it "ham and egg".
 

Henarar

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lovely
 
with regard to moving sheep, a friend bottle rears, a few lambs, every year, makes a fuss of them, so they allways run up to him, when he checks round, for a handful of cake, where 1 sheep goes, the rest follow, bloody neat to watch, and he has 800 ewes, no dogs.
Another job creation scheme for pet lambs, handy when you have kids! The former pets are certainly the first ones at the gate/wire when it's time for a move.
 
I find that 1day brakes are too narrow for sheep to run around the end of the fence,they all charge and you can't make a 'gateway' fast enough then they cut corners and get tangled up in the fence.
I do 2 day brakes and it works well and I do it in the dark at the moment (2 tape). I set the weeks' fences up on the weekends. I like it. I like that the sheep are not bullied as much and find escape easier with out going over/under the tape.
 

som farmer

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we were advised to use a different spray programme on a 29 acre field of maize, why, not a clue, just did as told. It worked well, with one exception, at harvesting, the ground under the maize, was pretty solid with wild plantains, 29 acres of them, keep sheep loved them, and part of everyday, they would go back to them. It was not a problem, it shows what is still in the natural seed bank, certainly never seen it since, or before.
 

Treg

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I noticed tonight that the 5 day old dungpats on this field are being shredded by insects. (y):cool:

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Dad & I have been looking at the Pat's the last couple of days , full of dung beetles, amazing watching them work, dad said he'd never seen them before?!?
But he wants to know why their there?
So are they predators? And what are they eating?
Or are they there laying eggs?
 

Treg

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Found some info on dung beetles.
 

Guleesh

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Found some info on dung beetles.
Great, we were seeing loads of the tunnels next to and under sheep sh!t a few weeks back and assumed dung beetles but this confirms it. And to think we were systematically killing them for years with all our doses and pour-ons, really pleased to see more of them this year.
 

Treg

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I'd love to see the reaction of that video on the modern grass is @#$☆ thread, their asking the right questions but ignoring the answers :scratchhead:
And going back to @Henarar s picture of herbs, there are some on the other thread that say herbal leys don't last & yet H has them growing on land that hasn't been resown for 200yrs , which brings me back to one of KP s sayings ...Build it and they will come(y)
 

Henarar

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I'd love to see the reaction of that video on the modern grass is @#$☆ thread, their asking the right questions but ignoring the answers :scratchhead:
And going back to @Henarar s picture of herbs, there are some on the other thread that say herbal leys don't last & yet H has them growing on land that hasn't been resown for 200yrs , which brings me back to one of KP s sayings ...Build it and they will come(y)
Its not all like that but it will come with management, it will go the other way with management and no seed
Same farm but the other end would have been similar old fashion stuff no fert, another farmer took it on and pushed it with fert and slurry and for years and now the sward is completely different
What I find with the old PP is you can feed it off pull the cattle out and it grows again . some fields here I will say about them "good field that always some grass in it" and very often its the rough looking fields that are all humps and holes that never get anything done to them, I know there will be grass there without going to look, some fields want to grow grass without trying, without being forced
 

holwellcourtfarm

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SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published

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Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer from July will give the sector a clear path forward and boost farm business resilience.

From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024

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Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...
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