It looks very much like a parody.
Check out some of the other posts. As for origin of the photo? I'm guessing post-flood carnage.
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
- Start date
Check out some of the other posts. As for origin of the photo? I'm guessing post-flood carnage.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
They could be different depending on the drill model ?
Its named SimTech Aitchison (TSem) ..with
I might be wrong though
www.simtech-aitchison.co.uk/en/about-us/european-evolution
or some reading for you from the Forum...
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/simtech-aitchison-drills.15571/
I’m behind here so just catching up but @Tassie Farmer already knows the best beef breed so that’s that one solved.You ARE in the "safe zone" in this thread though Steve (Welcome BTW).
PLEASE don't go near the Brexit threads
Oh, and NEVER post asking "Which pickup" is best (or tractor make or beef breed or....)
Something I do is just slightly sting yourself occasionally then you develop a bit of immunity to it.
I like a bit of chicory seems to be coming on well in patches on my rotation.
Was chatting to my dairy farming friend the other day who was adamant that you want to graze the graze down to 1700 and not to leave much leaf there because you can go in with some fert after to get it to regrow.
Going to do a full pasture walk at the end of the week so will have some good comparisons on regrowth rate after different exit levels. I already know the result after having a sneaky check the other day on my first paddock which I pulled out of early. It’s at 3900 and I’ve given it a few more days by grazing a couple of small silage paddocks as there were new leafs coming still.
- Location
- Quebec, Canada
Cheers for sharing your costings for wintering with the world, too @holwellcourtfarm .
I find it quite interesting to go over the financials and plan ways to nip costs here and there while still do a good enough job.
But it also makes you aware of how we sometimes think about what we do with our time, if you put a real hourly figure on it.
In our context the winter housing is quite an earner and a time sink as well, certainly our main costs are involved with the silage and a few hours on the tractor but also this is when the cashflow seems to come, sell stock through winter as well as the grazing and so my hour per day may turn into two - but it's when I pay myself as well!
We effectively change our stocking rate to suit our available resources, and aim for at least 3 income streams:
- paid employment
- stock sales
- grazing cattle
- grazing lambs
which aim to create plenty of cashflow when our costs seem to occur
- tax
- rates
- fuel (1-2 tankfuls in the tractor lasts me the rest of the year if I want)
- vehicle servicing
- general maintenance stuff
- this year the leasing of some bulls during summer was a real big winner for us - get paid $500/hd to destock when the dry hits!
Crazy not to.
Hence the decision to forge ahead with the techno system going forward - I'd like to maintain some small bull mobs as well as hopefully graze dairy calves, and a few of our own heifers - the cost esp. time to install will be noticeable, but the income streams can be spread (and it's basically a one-off expense)
I didn't count the ewe liquidation in my profit figures as payment is due and we are into the new financial year.
Our wintering costs for 80-120 small cattle
Silage (contracted) $2500
Wood shavings $750
Fuel $400 (mowing, feeding out, scraping, mucking out every 2nd year)
Labour (50 hours @$300/hr) $15,000
=$18,650
Income
80 @ $30/wk x 13 weeks (contracted, may be extra)
=$31,200
so by treating it as a "whole" our wintering system is profitable enough to then pay for the muckspreading bill, the insurances on the equipment and all the other little bits and pieces that come up during the year.. as well as rectify any overdraft etc.
We'll roll the ewe dispersal profits into lots of fencing supplies as capital expenditure.
And then we have about 40 bulls, average cost there is $865 plus about an hour's labour (@$300/hr
We must pay ourselves first - the business is "us" and we are it .
‘Labour (50 hours @$300/hr) $15,000 ‘
Are you giving the stock legal advice while feeding them? Why do you give yourself such a high hourly wage?Because you can?
- Location
- Quebec, Canada
For what purpose did they do such arduous work do you think? To contain stock?Those are Strip Lynchets .
They are bronze age terraces, man made in the landscape to live and farm on. Basically a flatish terrace with a 6 to 8 foot drop down to the next one. Grows fantastic grass, we're not allowed to do any kind of ground work on there (unless you are a badger of course ). My favourite place on the farm.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Good luck with working your way through the other "safe" thread: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index...dom-thoughts-i-never-said-it-was-easy.186684/
Only 1000 pages of it
Hi @Tassie Farmer
All good
Have a read of the first few pages of my random thoughts thread might give you a better idea of what I'm about
Yeah, maybe a bit of an enviro tree hugging lefty Eco warrior underneath this conservative middle aged white male farmer exterior - but definitely not an extreme vegan PETA animal libber
foobar
Member
- Location
- South Wales
(apologies for late delay on this - been busy
)There was also a nice piece earlier on in the same prog with a dairy farmer, about quarter to 7 (45mins in).
The thing about Mr Monbiot is that a lot of what he speaks is good sense, and he is incredibly passionate about it all, and he has a big audience. He is the sort of person that the regenerative crew in the UK need to be educating and getting on board, not fighting against him.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yes, better I have it than anyone else
I don't do many hours per year of "work" but I certainly spend a lot of hours "occupied" with it, if that makes sense?
And, just because I draw it out doesn't mean I can't reinvest the money back into it
Sheila Cooke
Member
I've now got an article about the various ways you can see Allan Savory whilst he is in the UK at the end of June.
https://www.3lm.network/allan-savory-is-speaking-at-groundswell
https://www.3lm.network/allan-savory-is-speaking-at-groundswell
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Count us in for the London event and possibly @onesiedale as well please.
- Location
- Quebec, Canada
I guess there was bound to be at least ONE.#unfairbritishadvantages
Sheila Cooke
Member
Hi @holwellcourtfarm and @onesiedale -- glad to hear you want to attend the London event. I recommend registering soon if you plan to go. I believe it will sell out as we have limited seating. Here is the registration link:
https://www.3lm.network/store/Conversations-From-the-Edge-with-Allan-Savory-p138235933
awkward
Member
- Location
- kerry ireland
for those of us unable to attend where or will we be able to see seminars on video. would love to meet both Allan Savory and Charles Massey .
Tassie Farmer
Member
Hi @Tassie Farmer
All good
Have a read of the first few pages of my random thoughts thread might give you a better idea of what I'm about
Yeah, maybe a bit of an enviro tree hugging lefty Eco warrior underneath this conservative middle aged white male farmer exterior - but definitely not an extreme vegan PETA animal libber
G’day Roy, thanks mate, l was just a bit shocked when I saw that fake photo and jumped to a conclusion not knowing you guys, yeah I checked out your random thoughts and frankly I think you’re what most genuine farmers would like to aspire to, think I called you an activist but your actually an inspiration! Lol, we love our cattle and couldn’t imagine any genuine farmer treating their animals like that Sam character claims, our dairy farmer neighbors are the same as us, they care deeply for their herd. Seems like a great group you have here and I’m still finding my way around, so much here I don’t think I’ll ever get through it all but most is very interesting, getting the time might be the killer!
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
@Tassie Farmer
Haha
Inspiration - you are too kind. I've been called worse things on TFF
Nah, just struggling to do the best I can & trying to stay adaptable & open minded
Things have been a bit difficult the last couple of years here in northern NSW, so I'm currently away from home for about 4 months working for contractors harvesting cotton
It's not my ideal lifestyle choice at the moment, but it is a matter of doing what you need to do to survive.
Other options further down the track are less palatable . . .
Most of the best people on TFF are in this thread here, a lot of other threads seem to degeneratate into agression, negativity or blinkered attitudes fairly quickly
Haha
Inspiration - you are too kind. I've been called worse things on TFF
Nah, just struggling to do the best I can & trying to stay adaptable & open minded
Things have been a bit difficult the last couple of years here in northern NSW, so I'm currently away from home for about 4 months working for contractors harvesting cotton
It's not my ideal lifestyle choice at the moment, but it is a matter of doing what you need to do to survive.
Other options further down the track are less palatable . . .
Most of the best people on TFF are in this thread here, a lot of other threads seem to degeneratate into agression, negativity or blinkered attitudes fairly quickly
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Well, you give me plenty of inspiration.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Tassie Farmer
Member
@Tassie Farmer
Haha
Inspiration - you are too kind. I've been called worse things on TFF
Nah, just struggling to do the best I can & trying to stay adaptable & open minded
Things have been a bit difficult the last couple of years here in northern NSW, so I'm currently away from home for about 4 months working for contractors harvesting cotton
It's not my ideal lifestyle choice at the moment, but it is a matter of doing what you need to do to survive.
Other options further down the track are less palatable . . .
Most of the best people on TFF are in this thread here, a lot of other threads seem to degeneratate into agression, negativity or blinkered attitudes fairly quickly
Yeah I would say struggling is almost a way of life for most private owner farmers and trying to stay adaptable and open minded is an absolute necessity, I like you go off interstate from time to time out of necessity for the very same reason, I go ug mining (not coal) lol which I am grateful for as I wouldn’t be farming today if it wasn’t for the mines, and those other threads you mention are just like other farm forums, you just want to get out [emoji3061]