In a state of shock over the BBC and trees

[Heatgereater]

If trees where made into charcoal then spread on the land then carbon could be locked away in soils while adding in a soil conditioner possibly and reverting it back to agricultural use much like Amazonian slash and burn policy.
I understand charcoal is quite stable in soil and is good for soil microbes

 

[cb387]

So I have a pile of old pallets in the yard. Is the most environmentally friendly way to dispose of them to dig a hole and bury them to lock the carbon in the ground?

 

[Hilly]

Oh dear. I suppose all of you that have refused to buy your TV licenses won’t be allowed to see this?

I assume for that comment your still part funding an organisation that harboured pedophiles ?

 

[primmiemoo]

So I have a pile of old pallets in the yard. Is the most environmentally friendly way to dispose of them to dig a hole and bury them to lock the carbon in the ground?

Reuse the nails, mind!

 

[Fish]

Because they have an enormous amount of money resting on it. This could get very interesting.

+ they have no plan B.
Im almost certain the the CEO of many companies has ask the question at a boardroom meeting, “ right gentlemen what are we going to do about our carbon footprint “, only to be faced with a sea of blank looks.
The crunch moment may well arrive when one of these countries these guys hope will sell land or forest for carbon offset , realises there is a whole Klondike of money to be made and just says no. To offset your carbon here , you have to pay, £€$¥xxxxxx + local taxes and at that point there will be a collective o feck moment in boardrooms around the world.

 

[robs1]

So I have a pile of old pallets in the yard. Is the most environmentally friendly way to dispose of them to dig a hole and bury them to lock the carbon in the ground?

I have some old tyres, thinking of doing the same, of course I need to put some wire round them and call it gateway stabilisation. Win win

 

[DaveGrohl]

+ they have no plan B.
right gentlemen what are we going to do about our carbon footprint “, only to be faced with a sea of blank looks.

Ok, clearly none of us have a clue, let's get a vegan expert in to explain it to us. They're masters at ignoring facts and shifting attention away from what we're not doing to save the planet. They'll be well worth the money.

 

[neilo]

So I have a pile of old pallets in the yard. Is the most environmentally friendly way to dispose of them to dig a hole and bury them to lock the carbon in the ground?

The revolutionary new method will be to incinerate them and incorporate the ash into the soil. The nails can be extracted from the ash first, to send on to @primmiemoo

Unfortunately, you’ve just missed annual ‘Carbon Reincorporation Day’. I understand there is to be another next June though.

 

[Will Blackburn]

There’s a lot of vegans overstating the animal agriculture thing. The methane job is literally bullsh1t.

Nitrogen fertilisers are agriculture’s Achilles heel. Energy intensive in production, NOx releasing, and soil carbon reducing in use. We should make them very expensive , but not just over here, because obviously that won’t work.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

If trees where made into charcoal then spread on the land then carbon could be locked away in soils while adding in a soil conditioner possibly and reverting it back to agricultural use much like Amazonian slash and burn policy.
I understand charcoal is quite stable in soil and is good for soil microbes

I would love to see the tera petra soils in the Amazon

Terra preta - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[SteveHants]

Re: the BBC.
I quite like James Wong and I quite like this: https://www.bbc.com/future/bespoke/follow-the-food/how-our-food-can-fix-the-planet.html

 

[melted welly]

Ok, clearly none of us have a clue, let's get a vegan expert in to explain it to us. They're masters at ignoring facts and shifting attention away from what we're not doing to save the planet. They'll be well worth the money.

I’ll save you the expense - you’ve just to keep saying “more needs to be done” and when asked to be more specific, the answer is “better policies”.

 

[Old apprentice]

Don't get too excited, the AHDB will soon be along to point out that trees are better for the environment than livestock.

I would not be surprised, the are just pandering to gov rubbish ,vote out

 

[Yale]

There’s a lot of vegans overstating the animal agriculture thing. The methane job is literally bullsh1t.

Nitrogen fertilisers are agriculture’s Achilles heel. Energy intensive in production, NOx releasing, and soil carbon reducing in use. We should make them very expensive , but not just over here, because obviously that won’t work.

If it wasn’t for the CO2 produced in the process AN production would be stuffed regarding emissions reductions.

Another case of turn a blind eye to something which doesn’t suit the agenda.

 

[curlietailz]

If trees where made into charcoal then spread on the land then carbon could be locked away in soils while adding in a soil conditioner possibly and reverting it back to agricultural use much like Amazonian slash and burn policy.
I understand charcoal is quite stable in soil and is good for soil microbes

BIOCHAR

“
Biochar have made substantial breakthroughs in reducing greenhouse gas emissions and global warming, reducing soil nutrient leaching losses, sequester atmospheric carbon into the soil, increasing agricultural productivity, reducing bioavailability of environmental contaminants and subsequently, becoming a value-added ...”l

https://www.sciencedirect.com › pii

Significance of biochar application to the environment and economy​

 

[Cowabunga]

If it wasn’t for the CO2 produced in the process AN production would be stuffed regarding emissions reductions.

Another case of turn a blind eye to something which doesn’t suit the agenda.

What these people need to ask themselves is whether they prefer to eat or starve. How much of a reduction in disposable income due to much higher food prices and increase in food banks and actual poverty the population are willing to tolerate for the sake of reducing agriculture's CO2 emissions? Or would they prefer a massive reduction in foreign travel for leisure rather than starve or go short of domestic heating and so on?
These hard questions are not being asked yet but if food becomes short worldwide, they soon will.

 

[farmerm]

What these people need to ask themselves is whether they prefer to eat or starve. How much of a reduction in disposable income due to much higher food prices and increase in food banks and actual poverty the population are willing to tolerate for the sake of reducing agriculture's CO2 emissions? Or would they prefer a massive reduction in foreign travel for leisure rather than starve or go short of domestic heating and so on?
These hard questions are not being asked yet but if food becomes short worldwide, they soon will.

Those protesting at COP today seem to think the solution is simple, take money from Billionaires . Once again socialist middle class that lack any real understanding of the world in which they live

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I would also like to know the following:-
*how much CO2 is produced in the manufacture of fertliser?
*how much less CO2 is emitted into the atmosphere with organic production?
*cab organic production still feed the world?
*which is better for climate change, organic with ploughing or regenerative (with roundup) and no ploughing?
*how much methane is produced in rice growing?
*how much Carbon is released from the soil in ploughing/cultivations?
*Is it possible to grow staples such as potatoes without liberating too much Carbon from the soil?

 

[Nearly]

If the CO2 from fert production is captured and sold on to another customer does it really exist?
99% of people wouldn't count it as being theirs, no matter which bit of the process they are 'responsible' for.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Those protesting at COP today seem to think the solution is simple, take money from Billionaires . Once again socialist middle class that lack any real understanding of the world in which they live

Isn't it 50% of all flights are done by just 1% of the population, which I guess aren't the poor, so then may have a point.