been there 20 years ago when milking
http://www.whitewolfpack.com/2017/1...wClWQPtpdWCzEX193TTUk1hhSFy8wLeu5mWjARBYxi7OY
any body local with a hawk
hang a few up side down ,,,they dont like own seen that way
Infested ... and helpless. Ideas?
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been there 20 years ago when milking
http://www.whitewolfpack.com/2017/1...wClWQPtpdWCzEX193TTUk1hhSFy8wLeu5mWjARBYxi7OY
any body local with a hawk
hang a few up side down ,,,they dont like own seen that way
Homesy
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- Location
- North West Devon
Neither will the RPA. A guy not far from here lost a chunk of his SFP when they found a few dead ones around
ollie989898
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I know starlings do not like laser pens. Or 20 bores filled with a suitable fine shot.
Milkcow365
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- Location
- Sw Scotland
I’ve been leaving the ride on lawn mower going at the times they come in seems to of worked nearly a week with very few now, I noticed they hated it when I was cutting lawns a few weeks ago
dannewhouse
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- Location
- huddersfield
i think tree cutting will help you a bit along with leaving a lawn mower running!
Cows 'n grass
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- Location
- Modbury, South Devon
Maybe they just like looking at pretty brown cows. That brown patch isn't mud, it's just thousands of starlings
Looks like I taught you to de horn......
Glad to see I am not the only one with these though if there out in the field you’re very lucky.
Have to empty most water troughs daily now due to starling crap
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
I can't take credit for that one because she's bought in. Unfortunately she ain't the only one..
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
I have to say there not really a problem here at all but they do put me off growing any maize.
I actually quite like watching this from my garden at 4 o'clock every day.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Has anyone tried advertising on a falconry forum?
dannewhouse
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- Location
- huddersfield
you can set drones to do a certain route and set them so when the battery goes flat they go to a certain spot to land, I don't know how to do it but I know it can be done, would this be an idea?
or have it just do a lap every 15mins?
don't know how long batterys last in them but if you could get couple hrs might be worth it?
or have it just do a lap every 15mins?
don't know how long batterys last in them but if you could get couple hrs might be worth it?
25 min fly time on a dji phantom. But it will fly a mile route in about 1 min and return to a pre set place/yard. Take off and landing take most power followed by flying against the wind. I think flying into them as they arrive could well deter them for the day tho.
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
If a drone was used could it broadcast a starling distress call?
Birds and all animals hate the drone. I think it would worry them enough on it's own that for that day they would be gone. @Clive is using his for pigeon scaring.
dannewhouse
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- huddersfield
attach laser to drone, should be a good job.
sounds like best idea with drone is to do a less than 5 min lap then park up then go again in 10 mins. or just go for it as they come to land to keep them away.
sounds like best idea with drone is to do a less than 5 min lap then park up then go again in 10 mins. or just go for it as they come to land to keep them away.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Watching this thread with interest.
Birds (and animals) get used to pretty much anything given time, except natural predators that they know from experience are dangerous. Falconers use various devices to lift a lure high into the sky and then train their birds to fly up to catch it to get them fit for hunting wild quarry. So, they use balloons, kites, and now drones. Obviously, these don't work if the bird is frightened of them! Long term, I don't think starlings would be frightened off with a drone, but it would probably work short term. Trained falcons have been used for bird scaring with a lot more effect, but they and their handlers tend to be expensive.
There's a new gadget on the horizon, the 'Ornithopter', which has promise. It simulates the wing beat of a natural predator and some are very realistic. But also very expensive and only hired out for bird scaring at major airports at the moment. Birds know when a hawk is hunting and they know which species are dangerous.
I'd try the drone first. There are cheap ones advertised on TV for around £100, but maybe there's a hobbyist locally who would come out for a few £s? Next, I'd try a drone lifting a silhouette of a major predator. Google Images, "silhouette of peregrine falcon". There are bird scaring devices with silhouettes of raptors but, frankly, they are not convincing and sometimes show a species that is fairly benign and not even in hunting mode! Starlings know the difference between a serious predator like a peregrine or merlin but probably just shy away from something less threatening like a kestrel. It's terror that's needed! Google images came up with this of a peregrine which is typical of a falcon waiting to stoop onto prey:
Birds (and animals) get used to pretty much anything given time, except natural predators that they know from experience are dangerous. Falconers use various devices to lift a lure high into the sky and then train their birds to fly up to catch it to get them fit for hunting wild quarry. So, they use balloons, kites, and now drones. Obviously, these don't work if the bird is frightened of them! Long term, I don't think starlings would be frightened off with a drone, but it would probably work short term. Trained falcons have been used for bird scaring with a lot more effect, but they and their handlers tend to be expensive.
There's a new gadget on the horizon, the 'Ornithopter', which has promise. It simulates the wing beat of a natural predator and some are very realistic. But also very expensive and only hired out for bird scaring at major airports at the moment. Birds know when a hawk is hunting and they know which species are dangerous.
I'd try the drone first. There are cheap ones advertised on TV for around £100, but maybe there's a hobbyist locally who would come out for a few £s? Next, I'd try a drone lifting a silhouette of a major predator. Google Images, "silhouette of peregrine falcon". There are bird scaring devices with silhouettes of raptors but, frankly, they are not convincing and sometimes show a species that is fairly benign and not even in hunting mode! Starlings know the difference between a serious predator like a peregrine or merlin but probably just shy away from something less threatening like a kestrel. It's terror that's needed! Google images came up with this of a peregrine which is typical of a falcon waiting to stoop onto prey:
Re Drone.
We have about 7ac of yard and the little pluckers just move from one bit to another now no matter what we throw at them. Totally immune to any scaring device now ... which suggests to me a cold winter coming so growing a beard!
Mind, if you could arm the drone .......
We have about 7ac of yard and the little pluckers just move from one bit to another now no matter what we throw at them. Totally immune to any scaring device now ... which suggests to me a cold winter coming so growing a beard!
Mind, if you could arm the drone .......
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
According to a dutch website 5G kills them i suspect you may have a long wait for this though