Is SFI panicking farming suppliers?

[Scrambler]

From some conversations I’ve had recently, I’m getting the feeling there’s some panick in businesses that rely on farming customers that large scale SFI options could become very popular.
For instance, suggesting that it wouldn’t be moral, or that you wouldn’t be a real “farmer” if you take large areas temporarily out of food production.

 

[spin cycle]

if they're that worried then perhaps they should lobby for an end to red tractor

if food production was lucrative there'd be no problem

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Been hearing the same and most farmers I talk to have no sympathy.

 

[Goweresque]

Well I had a phone call out of the blue from my fencing materials supplier this morning asking if I needed anything, which has never happened before, so perhaps yes, people are pulling their horns in and the supply trade are noticing.

 

[Kidds]

Been hearing the same and most farmers I talk to have no sympathy.

Why would they?
Too many people living off the back of farmers for too long, never noticed any sympathy from them.

 

[Nearly]

Rather be a farmer than a farm supplier over the next few years, and think I'm not going to enjoy being a farmer much.

 

[warksfarmer]

Farmers have no moral obligation to produce food at all. Been told to diversify for years so they subsidise food production themselves.

It’s the governments job not the farmers. If they want cheap food then reinstate BPS at £100/acre.

We’ve had no union representation for the last 20 years which is why this has happened because the union is in bed with the very entities trying to shaft the farmers.

What all these idiots forgot was that without farmers they don’t exist themselves so it’s about time they got their just deserves. Hopefully this will spell the end for the NFU, Red Tractor, AHDB, AIC then the BRC will have to start shafting imported food supplies to stay afloat themselves.

It’ll clear the crap out of the industry and allow it to start again without having the costs of the gravy train around farmers necks.

 

[David.]

They will probably just pull the rug and stop, and they probably won't lose much sleep over it either.
Unlike farmers, they won't say, I've got the shop and so it is my duty to keep supplying regardless of whether it pays or not.

 

[Bald Rick]

I have no dog in the fight but I strongly suspect that Defra will cap the percentage of land they will allow in to the scheme.

 

[kfpben]

I imagine the new Fendt dealer that opened up down the road 18 months ago will be getting a little nervous.

 

[lloyd]

I have no dog in the fight but I strongly suspect that Defra will cap the percentage of land they will allow in to the scheme.

I hope it's a total payment cap rather than a percentage.

 

[J 1177]

Farmers have no moral obligation to produce food at all. Been told to diversify for years so they subsidise food production themselves.

It’s the governments job not the farmers. If they want cheap food then reinstate BPS at £100/acre.

We’ve had no union representation for the last 20 years which is why this has happened because the union is in bed with the very entities trying to shaft the farmers.

What all these idiots forgot was that without farmers they don’t exist themselves so it’s about time they got their just deserves. Hopefully this will spell the end for the NFU, Red Tractor, AHDB, AIC then the BRC will have to start shafting imported food supplies to stay afloat themselves.

It’ll clear the crap out of the industry and allow it to start again without having the costs of the gravy train around farmers necks.

Some will be very higly leveraged too so it may not take long for the house of cards to start tumbling

 

[serf]

"Supply and demand ain't it gov "....

They'll have to drop their prices and and take less cut , then barter them down too if they want the sale it's got a joke the inflation since scamdemic time and a lot seems to have taken the p!SS cos they can get away with it

 

[Cowlife]

I know in N ireland any meetings I've been at they constantly emphasise if it hits budget cap it's scaled back prorata. I think they know what could happen

 

[Rookie]

In the farmers weekly the other week it showed some of the bigger companies involved in ag (some machinery dealers) and it was interesting to see how many staff some employed and there wage bills compared to profits etc.

 

[robs1]

Was talking to a guy who knows several second hand dealers, he said there phones have stopped ringing .

 

[Devil's advocate]

I hope it's a total payment cap rather than a percentage.

Why?

 

[andybk]

From some conversations I’ve had recently, I’m getting the feeling there’s some panick in businesses that rely on farming customers that large scale SFI options could become very popular.
For instance, suggesting that it wouldn’t be moral, or that you wouldn’t be a real “farmer” if you take large areas temporarily out of food production.

end of the gravy train for both suppliers and buyers , we have been taken for granted for to long , sheep yards , fencing etc going up in price in line with grants available rather than just inflationary rises , supermarkets paying below cost of production , *** the lot of em . Can quite see food shortages in about 3 or 4 years

 

[lloyd]

Why?

Because it might not look so bad to the taxpayer.
You can already see the news headlines from the large agri businesses
putting 1000s of acres into these schemes .It could make the bps payments
look miniscule in comparison.

 

[ollie989898]

In the farmers weekly the other week it showed some of the bigger companies involved in ag (some machinery dealers) and it was interesting to see how many staff some employed and there wage bills compared to profits etc.

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Jebus, no prizes for guessing which of those companies would be the least preferable to work for!