Ivermectin , covid cure

[Two Tone]

He has asked for donations. It wouldn't surprise me if he receives little packets of thanks from his HART member guests. He certainly promotes their nonsense often enough to be on a retainer. When he promotes publications from notorious anti-vaccine disinformationists, it's highly unlikely he's doing it out of charity.

If you can't see he's profiteering from dangerous misinformation, are you able to spot cons more locally to you, or more pertinent to farming?

Well I’ve spotted you, haven’t I?

 

[Cowabunga]

The majority of healthcare workers are up to date with their jabs.

You live a sheltered life, and you're surprised by sunrise and sunset, but the world beyond your farm is not as cosy.

Ah well.. ~

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None, not one of the staff at my large local primary care practice has had a single covid vaccine dose, ever, I happen to know from full time employees there who are under pressure not to answer that question when asked. But I’ve known several since school days and we were basically brought up together. Nevertheless I’ve had three or four doses, can’t remember exactly. Only last Autumn’s dose have I missed.

 

[ollie989898]

None, not one of the staff at my large local primary care practice has had a single covid vaccine dose, ever, I happen to know from full time employees there who are under pressure not to answer that question when asked. But I’ve known several since school days and we were basically brought up together. Nevertheless I’ve had three or four doses, can’t remember exactly. Only last Autumn’s dose have I missed.

How is the vaccination status of anyone your fudging business?

You are incredible.

 

[Canada Farmer]

They are proven now, proven to do diddly squat in terms of reducing the spread of covid or improving your outcomes when you catch it for the umpteenth time.

That's why these die hard pro stabbers are all giving out free advice in Manflu corner to all the poor basterds with unshakeable health problems.

It's as if one of their batteries has been put in backwards and with a press of the button, light is sucked out of an already dim space

"I'M HELPING"

How dare you mock the efficacy of vaccines or dare question those whom educated that have saved millions of lives during this pandemic with the visionary leadership of the likes of Trudeau or Ardern!!!













Apologies for the sarcasm!!!

 

[Cowabunga]

Campbell has nursing training. He had a good reputation for his study notes and lectures. He's chucked that for money. Scientific evidence shows how dangerously wrong he is on all that he lies about. It really isn't a common room debate with opinions. Nursey Nudge is anti-science and reality.

He hasn’t chucked it and he gives his books away free. He started and continues his channel because there was precious little information from official sources early on. He did it and still does it as a service and he has no need for the money that his non-sponsored channel creates from the pure popularity of his output.

He is most certainly not ‘anti-vax’ and I have yet to hear any anti-vaccine propaganda on his channel. He does legitimately question the wisdom of vaccinating healthy individuals and certainly children that are not in any risk group, and considering the mild nature of recent variants of Covid, with a novel series of vaccines with a relatively high risk factor and one that has been discontinued that was proven to cause an unnacceptably high incidence of heart and blood clotting. That, after the vaccines were officially publicised as being thoroughly tested and ‘safe’. In fact most of the Covid vaccines were launched with hardly any safety testing under an emergency license scheme.

Dr Campbell and almost all those guest contributors are NOT anti-vaccine any more than I am. You and Ollie seem only to see things in either black or white with no room whatsoever for the almost infinite shades of grey in between or either side. Solidly blinkered to accept the status quo even though that itself is continually shifting with increased knowledge and observation.

 

[Cowabunga]

How is the vaccination status of anyone your fudging business?

You are incredible.

What business is it of yours what my business actually is you f**king moron!

 

[Canada Farmer]

How is the vaccination status of anyone your fudging business?

You are incredible.

Vaccination status is irrelevant given the failure of the vaccine to do what its actually meant to do....

 

[Canada Farmer]

The vaccines are very much proven, even in Canada.

Unlike Canada, eligibility for autumn vaccines was restricted to over 65s, and people within categories including clinically vulnerable and healthcare workers.

Take up was quite high, and would have been higher had over 50s been eligible. Anecdotally, there was flexibility as to who was allowed a jab if they wished for one but didn't fit precisely within a category.

It's the children who are woefully undervaccinated, and also getting a series of infections.

Are you as delusional as our PM? Genuine question.

 

[ollie989898]

So, the manufacturers told us the vaccine would stay in the arm, not that it would end up in the liver or in breast milk, right?

That is interesting, because here I have a rather well regarded educator of nurses -furnished with a PhD as well- telling me something rather different:

I've got it. So... if you inject something into muscles, given that they are well perfused, it is going to enter the bloodstream and systemic circulation no sweat. I see. Gotcha.... Man, if my big fat C in A level biology could see me now...


But you can imagine my confusion here though.... When I have this other, highly regarded PhD holder, saying something completely different:

Now we've got this second bloke saying we were told it would stay in the arm, be gone in a few hours. Generate a 'local immune response' and to add a final flourish of a big fat cherry on top: apparently the regulators, the government, the medical profession, the government, the mythical WHO, and so on all duped us by not telling us the truth. [Boo hiss].

Only this is complete horse sh1t because the fudging data was published in December 2020 by the UK MHRA which included this passage of absolute literary beauty:

Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech

www.gov.uk

For those who may have had the good fortune to have been only born yesterday: this means the vaccine manufacturer told the UK regulators in December 2020 where the vaccine went and how long it persisted in the body. Not that this animal testing was actually an absolute necessity because anyone with a half decent grasp of the fudging immune system of any mammalian species (PhD holder or otherwise) could have told you the likely pathway nanoparticles made of lipids, peptides and mRNA would have taken and where they would have distributed to- this work merely confirmed what was expected because mRNA vaccines are not new and have been sat on the shelf for fudging years.

What can we conclude from all this? A few options. Possibly some, or even all may apply:

Option A: This aforementioned individual isn't the same individual or has had a brain transplant in the interim years between the two videos and therefore isn't a reliable source of information because he is being controlled by a brain-invader (TM).

Option B: The guy doesn't understand even basic pharmacokinetics and has no business making videos -even false ones- because he just doesn't have a scoobies what he is about and is therefore not a reliable source of information.

Option C: The guy is a liar liar pants on fire who clearly can't be trusted over information as straightforward as this and so sure as hell isn't likely to be reliable when it comes to anything more complicated and is therefore not a reliable source of information.

Option D: This was just a glitch in the matrix and you should continue as normal suckling away at that conspiracy/anti-pharma/anti-WHO/anti-vaxx (or whatever the hell else it is you actually care about so much) teat in blissful ignorance.

And you guys have to ask me why I don't listen to the guy's bullship? Really?! It is a complete waste of my time- I might as well go and watch teletubbies for all the good it would do me.


Check-mate.

Don't make me post the Al Pacino gif as well.

 

[ollie989898]

He hasn’t chucked it and he gives his books away free. He started and continues his channel because there was precious little information from official sources early on. He did it and still does it as a service and he has no need for the money that his non-sponsored channel creates from the pure popularity of his output.

He is most certainly not ‘anti-vax’ and I have yet to hear any anti-vaccine propaganda on his channel. He does legitimately question the wisdom of vaccinating healthy individuals and certainly children that are not in any risk group, and considering the mild nature of recent variants of Covid, with a novel series of vaccines with a relatively high risk factor and one that has been discontinued that was proven to cause an unnacceptably high incidence of heart and blood clotting. That, after the vaccines were officially publicised as being thoroughly tested and ‘safe’. In fact most of the Covid vaccines were launched with hardly any safety testing under an emergency license scheme.

Dr Campbell and almost all those guest contributors are NOT anti-vaccine any more than I am. You and Ollie seem only to see things in either black or white with no room whatsoever for the almost infinite shades of grey in between or either side. Solidly blinkered to accept the status quo even though that itself is continually shifting with increased knowledge and observation.

I'm glad the gives his books away free- I sure as fudge wouldn't buy them.

 

[ollie989898]

What business is it of yours what my business actually is you f**king moron!

 

[ollie989898]

Vaccination status is irrelevant given the failure of the vaccine to do what its actually meant to do....

Efficacy and Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Randomized Clinical Trials - PubMed

The current study systematically reviewed, summarized and meta-analyzed the clinical features of the vaccines in clinical trials to provide a better estimate of their efficacy, side effects and immunogenicity. All relevant publications were systematically searched and collected from major...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[melted welly]

This thread has become more childish than the YouTube thread.

Have you considered twitter?

 

[tepapa]

So, the manufacturers told us the vaccine would stay in the arm, not that it would end up in the liver or in breast milk, right?

That is interesting, because here I have a rather well regarded educator of nurses -furnished with a PhD as well- telling me something rather different:


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I've got it. So... if you inject something into muscles, given that they are well perfused, it is going to enter the bloodstream and systemic circulation no sweat. I see. Gotcha.... Man, if my big fat C in A level biology could see me now...


But you can imagine my confusion here though.... When I have this other, highly regarded PhD holder, saying something completely different:



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Now we've got this second bloke saying we were told it would stay in the arm, be gone in a few hours. Generate a 'local immune response' and to add a final flourish of a big fat cherry on top: apparently the regulators, the government, the medical profession, the government, the mythical WHO, and so on all duped us by not telling us the truth. [Boo hiss].

Only this is complete horse sh1t because the fudging data was published in December 2020 by the UK MHRA which included this passage of absolute literary beauty:

Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech

www.gov.uk

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For those who may have had the good fortune to have been only born yesterday: this means the vaccine manufacturer told the UK regulators in December 2020 where the vaccine went and how long it persisted in the body. Not that this animal testing was actually an absolute necessity because anyone with a half decent grasp of the fudging immune system of any mammalian species (PhD holder or otherwise) could have told you the likely pathway nanoparticles made of lipids, peptides and mRNA would have taken and where they would have distributed to- this work merely confirmed what was expected because mRNA vaccines are not new and have been sat on the shelf for fudging years.

What can we conclude from all this? A few options. Possibly some, or even all may apply:

Option A: This aforementioned individual isn't the same individual or has had a brain transplant in the interim years between the two videos and therefore isn't a reliable source of information because he is being controlled by a brain-invader (TM).

Option B: The guy doesn't understand even basic pharmacokinetics and has no business making videos -even false ones- because he just doesn't have a scoobies what he is about and is therefore not a reliable source of information.

Option C: The guy is a liar liar pants on fire who clearly can't be trusted over information as straightforward as this and so sure as hell isn't likely to be reliable when it comes to anything more complicated and is therefore not a reliable source of information.

Option D: This was just a glitch in the matrix and you should continue as normal suckling away at that conspiracy/anti-pharma/anti-WHO/anti-vaxx (or whatever the hell else it is you actually care about so much) teat in blissful ignorance.

And you guys have to ask me why I don't listen to the guy's bullship? Really?! It is a complete waste of my time- I might as well go and watch teletubbies for all the good it would do me.


Check-mate.

Don't make me post the Al Pacino gif as well.

So if I understand this correctly. He's a liar because he repeated the governments information, I'd imagine put together by thier top scientists and chief medical doctors on the subject, that it was to stay in the arm. This was against his better judgement. Then when he does question the advice you make him out to be a liar. Gotcha

 

[essex man]

Around 250,000 people have died from covid in the UK. He was asked for worst case scenario modelling and gave a figure of around that, over a shorter period, without mitigations, and with no vaccines available. But the pandemic isn't over yet. More than 3,000 people have died from covid since the beginning of this year. Omicron is no more. It's JN.1 and its descendents that's circulating now, although that doesn't guarantee that you can't catch the previous variants, or be very unlucky, and catch more than one at the same time.

Pandemics are horrible. People like you are both scared of the implications of the terrible consequences of letting this one rip, and strangely determined to keep the ruddy thing going. The first is understandable, but the second is bizarre. Why is anyone pro pandemic viruses!

This account on X has hit on a potential solution to stop SARS-CoV-2 from spreading that might be acceptable to some in this thread ~

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No , 250000 have not died of covid.
If you believe it and i think you do , then it's not a lie.
But it isn't true.
Do you believe that if covid hadn't happened 250000 more people would be alive now?

 

[Two Tone]

This thread has become more childish than the YouTube thread.

Have you considered twitter?

I agree, it has.
When people resort to blatant rudeness when somebody else disagrees with them, should not be for the likes of TFF.

But when it happens, it is so easy to get sucked in as a response.
In this case it started in trying to defend somebody, who is from a medical background, not connected to farming and who is trying to help people.
Is it a surprise that this attitude comes from folks now involved with medicine and whose prime focus now is not farming?

It smacks of the opinion that farmers are less intelligent and don’t know what they are talking about syndrome.
When the real situation is that opinions are like arse-holes, everybody has got one!

 

[essex man]

Which cold viruses are SARS?

All cold viruses can contribute to death in old people, that's how you die of old age these days.
Plenty of literature available, death rates similar to covid once you are hospitalised.
I have posted on numerous occasions.
Given you are so panic strewn about covid i thought you'd be all over this.

 

[Bogweevil]

All cold viruses can contribute to death in old people, that's how you die of old age these days.
Plenty of literature available, death rates similar to covid once you are hospitalised.
I have posted on numerous occasions.
Given you are so panic strewn about covid i thought you'd be all over this.

Not quite right:

• Dementia and Alzheimers disease was the leading cause of death in England and Wales in 2022, with 65,967 deaths (11.5% of all deaths), replacing coronavirus (COVID-19), which was the leading cause in 2020 and 2021; the second most common cause of death was ischaemic heart disease, accounting for 10.3% (59,356 deaths) of all deaths registered in 2022.
• The leading cause of death for males was ischaemic heart disease (38,730 deaths, accounting for 13.3% of all male deaths), while for females it was dementia and Alzheimers disease (42,635 deaths; 15.0% of all female deaths) in 2022; these were the same leading causes as in 2021.

 

[essex man]

Not quite right:

• Dementia and Alzheimers disease was the leading cause of death in England and Wales in 2022, with 65,967 deaths (11.5% of all deaths), replacing coronavirus (COVID-19), which was the leading cause in 2020 and 2021; the second most common cause of death was ischaemic heart disease, accounting for 10.3% (59,356 deaths) of all deaths registered in 2022.
• The leading cause of death for males was ischaemic heart disease (38,730 deaths, accounting for 13.3% of all male deaths), while for females it was dementia and Alzheimers disease (42,635 deaths; 15.0% of all female deaths) in 2022; these were the same leading causes as in 2021.

Ahh yes, the vast majority are not counted as such unless covid.
This in essence was part of the cause of the great overreaction.
We didn't and still don't count this these as caused by respiratory virus.
Rightly because it's old age.
Then covid comes along and it's thought to be a new cause of death, adding large numbers of additional deaths.
Clearly from mortality rates it wasn't.
With large numbers of people kept alive by healthcare with heart disease, cancer etc these days, we have seen a massive expansion of the numbers of old and sick , vulnerable to cold viruses.

 

[ollie989898]

So if I understand this correctly. He's a liar because the repeated he governments information, I'd imagine put together by thier top scientists and chief medical doctors on the subject, that it was to stay in the arm. This was against his better judgement. Then when he does question the advice you make him out to be a liar. Gotcha

Don't talk trash. The government said no such thing. The data regarding the pharmacokinetics of the fudging vaccine was in the public domain in December 2020.