Joe Biden

[mwj]

biden is pandering to the left of his party, could care less about the thousands of working people in the energy industry and their families he pushed out of a job,

Roger maybe you could tell us how many full time jobs this small section of pipeline will employ. What country benefits its completion? Will the refined product be used in this country? Will refinery's close from lack of oil? Do we have wells drilled and ready to pump if demand causes crude prices to rise?

 

[ollie989898]

C'mon,
I was once told by a very successful farmer in the UK that there were two things' you must never ever do (or seen to be doing if you are a farmer) as both are severely frowned on.
Of course you ask "what are they"............get ahead and enjoy yourself was his answer.
I guess that still holds' true.?

Roger, you can't defend the bloke: previous presidents all played golf mostly at US military bases, which is a darn sight cheaper and easier. Not Trump though, who golfed nearly 300 times in 4 years, who insisted on doing it at his own resorts, greatly increasing the cost and complexity of doing so. It's indefensible.

 

[ollie989898]

Roger maybe you could tell us how many full time jobs this small section of pipeline will employ. What country benefits its completion? Will the refined product be used in this country? Will refinery's close from lack of oil? Do we have wells drilled and ready to pump if demand causes crude prices to rise?

The truth is there are over a dozen pipeline projects on the go in North America right now so the closure of one site will not mean thousands are out of work. Bit moves are in play for the US to become a much bigger player in natural gas exports via LNG but if I remember rightly they don't have the LNG terminals in place quite yet to shift the huge volumes of gas that are waiting to be brought up by fracking.

 

[Roger Perry]

Roger, you can't defend the bloke: previous presidents all played golf mostly at US military bases, which is a darn sight cheaper and easier. Not Trump though, who golfed nearly 300 times in 4 years, who insisted on doing it at his own resorts, greatly increasing the cost and complexity of doing so. It's indefensible.

By your calculation he would be playing golf over six days per week.................
You do not seriously believe that do you..?

 

[Highland Mule]

By your calculation he would be playing golf over six days per week.................
You do not seriously believe that do you..?

300/(52x4) = 1.4 times per week

I believe it - and in fact I'm surprised it's as low as that.

https://trumpgolfcount.com might help with the credibility of the number of visits, but you can work on the maths side yourself.

 

[Roger Perry]

The truth is there are over a dozen pipeline projects on the go in North America right now so the closure of one site will not mean thousands are out of work. Bit moves are in play for the US to become a much bigger player in natural gas exports via LNG but if I remember rightly they don't have the LNG terminals in place quite yet to shift the huge volumes of gas that are waiting to be brought up by fracking.

When you stop commercial ventures that are close to completion for political reasons it stinks'
Pushing skilled workers out of work does not mean they can walk into a job on another site........they are already staffed.

 

[Roger Perry]

300/(52x4) = 1.4 times per week

I believe it - and in fact I'm surprised it's as low as that.

I guess I need to wake up before typing..............or use a calculator.

 

[ollie989898]

By your calculation he would be playing golf over six days per week.................
You do not seriously believe that do you..?

The man played golf nearly 300 days of his presidency. This is a matter of record and he did so, not at military bases but as his own resorts, meaning the security arrangements and costs on the tax payer were far greater than they might normally have been. And funnily enough, guess who owns the resorts that he was golfing at? You can see where this is going, tax payer money being spent and directed toward businesses he actually owns himself. I am sure you will appreciate the efforts made by the people planning the logistics, the military and security commitments of these golfing trips and that you, the tax payer, was funding the whole lot every time? Why couldn't Trump just play at a course on a military base rather than fly Air Force 1 across the country constantly? Military bases are by definition already secured areas.

Show me another President who went and employed half his own family and appointed them to very senior positions in the political system?

You gotta admit it is a laugh, things like Trump supporters criticising President Biden's wife for being 'over-educated' (whatever that means) because she is a doctor, but it is AOK for Trump's wife to be a model known for posing salacious photos? Ok then...

 

[ollie989898]

When you stop commercial ventures that are close to completion for political reasons it stinks'
Pushing skilled workers out of work does not mean they can walk into a job on another site........they are already staffed.

You know as well as I do that the Keystone project is dogged by controversy and has opposition from numerous parties so it being cancelled is hardly a piece of policy that was entirely unilateral.

Pipeline construction, like other oil and gas projects, is also a pretty specialist business and these guys will hardly be plentiful, as I said, there are numerous other projects in various phases of completion or planning across North America so I find it difficult to believe any one with these kinds of skills will be sat around for very long.

 

[Roger Perry]

You know as well as I do that the Keystone project is dogged by controversy and has opposition from numerous parties so it being cancelled is hardly a piece of policy that was entirely unilateral.

Pipeline construction, like other oil and gas projects, is also a pretty specialist business and these guys will hardly be plentiful, as I said, there are numerous other projects in various phases of completion or planning across North America so I find it difficult to believe any one with these kinds of skills will be sat around for very long.

To invest the $$$$$ and bring it close to completion then ditch it to comply with political dogma, how can that be right.

 

[ollie989898]

To invest the $$$$$ and bring it close to completion then ditch it to comply with political dogma, how can that be right.

You well know the nature of the opposition to this project, it is way beyond political dogma.

 

[mwj]

The keystone pipeline is in use. Ask people from Nebraska why the short-cut is not.

 

[Roger Perry]

The man played golf nearly 300 days of his presidency. This is a matter of record and he did so, not at military bases but as his own resorts, meaning the security arrangements and costs on the tax payer were far greater than they might normally have been. And funnily enough, guess who owns the resorts that he was golfing at? You can see where this is going, tax payer money being spent and directed toward businesses he actually owns himself. I am sure you will appreciate the efforts made by the people planning the logistics, the military and security commitments of these golfing trips and that you, the tax payer, was funding the whole lot every time? Why couldn't Trump just play at a course on a military base rather than fly Air Force 1 across the country constantly? Military bases are by definition already secured areas.

Show me another President who went and employed half his own family and appointed them to very senior positions in the political system?

You gotta admit it is a laugh, things like Trump supporters criticising President Biden's wife for being 'over-educated' (whatever that means) because she is a doctor, but it is AOK for Trump's wife to be a model known for posing salacious photos? Ok then...

The man played golf nearly 300 days of his presidency. This is a matter of record and he did so, not at military bases but as his own resorts, meaning the security arrangements and costs on the tax payer were far greater than they might normally have been. And funnily enough, guess who owns the resorts that he was golfing at? You can see where this is going, tax payer money being spent and directed toward businesses he actually owns himself. I am sure you will appreciate the efforts made by the people planning the logistics, the military and security commitments of these golfing trips and that you, the tax payer, was funding the whole lot every time? Why couldn't Trump just play at a course on a military base rather than fly Air Force 1 across the country constantly? Military bases are by definition already secured areas.

Show me another President who went and employed half his own family and appointed them to very senior positions in the political system?

You gotta admit it is a laugh, things like Trump supporters criticising President Biden's wife for being 'over-educated' (whatever that means) because she is a doctor, but it is AOK for Trump's wife to be a model known for posing salacious photos? Ok then...

Remember the old adage, "More deals get done on the golf course than in the office"

 

[Ncap]

Remember the old adage, "More deals get done on the golf course than in the office"

I don't remember it. Nor have I heard it or read it before. Sounds like something a golfer might have made up to justify their time spent on the course.

 

[Highland Mule]

Remember the old adage, "More deals get done on the golf course than in the office"

Trump Golf Count

Trump Golf Count: Tracking President Trumps golfing so you don't have to!

trumpgolfcount.com

Here's who he played with - one world leader in four years, but three Fox News hosts, over forty athletes (three times with Jack Nicklaus - including once with his young grandson), five lawyers, etc. I don't see many country-enriching deals in that lot, do you?

 

[ollie989898]

Trump Golf Count

Trump Golf Count: Tracking President Trumps golfing so you don't have to!

trumpgolfcount.com

Here's who he played with - one world leader in four years, but four Fox News hosts, over forty athletes (three times with Jack Nicklaus - including once with his young grandson), five lawyers, etc. I don't see many country-enriching deals in that lot, do you?

You couldn't make this up.

'That was a great, great story you did yesterday on the news, wanna play Golf on my course?'

 

[Highland Mule]

You couldn't make this up.

'That was a great, great story you did yesterday on the news, wanna play Golf on my course?'

More like “My son Eric’s wife wants a job at Fox, any chance of putting in a good word for her?”

 

[lazy farmer]

Over 900k jobs returned last month.

 

[Ashtree]

Over 900k jobs returned last month.

Go Joe, go!

 

[Roger Perry]

I don't remember it. Nor have I heard it or read it before. Sounds like something a golfer might have made up to justify their time spent on the course.

Go Joe, go!

Fraid to break it to you but the seeds to this recovery were sown months ago.
Herd immunity and getting the vaccine into 3 million arms per day can only have one outcome...................then I turn on the TV and ther's poor old joe telling everyone they must wear a mask and stay hunkered in the basement, thankfully people are ignoring the fool.