John Price interview , FarmersWeekly River Lugg video.

[unknownfarmer]

Mr Lugg was not imprisoned for chasing an EA employee for numerous miles in his van or extracting water or gravel though, as you state.

He was imprisoned for the most recent works he completed with a big digger on a SSSI and breaching an order to jolly well stop it.

They had to ‘dredge’ up his past to make him look a bad person as they didn’t have a strong enough case from the 2020/21 works

 

[egbert]

EA will do nothing,
Until it’s too late, like here, the Norfolk Suffolk coast, View attachment 1150221View attachment 1150222View attachment 1150223

ah, but this is natural processes at work...which must be good.
(tongue in cheek)

 

[Flatland guy]

Mr Lugg was not imprisoned for chasing an EA employee for numerous miles in his van or extracting water or gravel though, as you state.

He was imprisoned for the most recent works he completed with a big digger on a SSSI and breaching an order to jolly well stop it.

Mr Price was imprisoned and fined 600k IIRC and had to pay 600k to repair the damage. As he is speaking out I naturally presume he has paid the fine and paid the money to repair the damage. I think he is most annoyed that they had costed what it would be to repair the damage etc. and now they have the money to supposedly repair the environment nothing is happening, which until such time as anything does get done more or less means it was not an urgent issue whatsoever and the environment is not a concern after all.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Mr Price was imprisoned and fined 600k IIRC and had to pay 600k to repair the damage. As he is speaking out I naturally presume he has paid the fine and paid the money to repair the damage. I think he is most annoyed that they had costed what it would be to repair the damage etc. and now they have the money to supposedly repair the environment nothing is happening, which until such time as anything does get done more or less means it was not an urgent issue whatsoever and the environment is not a concern after all.

Six or seven hundred thousand to " repair" the damage is about £500 a metre. What can possibly cost that? Plant the whole bank in shrubs and scrub and that's it.

 

[Flatland guy]

Six or seven hundred thousand to " repair" the damage is about £500 a metre. What can possibly cost that? Plant the whole bank in shrubs and scrub and that's it.

I don't know but I am fairly sure it was around the same figure as the fine IIRC.

 

[Werzle]

Down stream of Leominster along the by pass some areas have always been historic flood
meadows .Go a couple of miles further (as the crow flies)and JP has another farm so what you write doesn't make sense .Interestingly between the two a conservation trust exists .Now tell me what are they doing to stop flooding?

Those meadows seem to flood worse since work was done in leominster by the EA to stop flooding and the landowners will not get a penny for the quicker longer floods. If the EA or IDB put a 360 and tree shear on either bank from kingsland to mordiford where the lugg meets the wye and just cleared the river of fallen trees and the various heaps of washed up gravel the river would be a 100% healthier and nothing would be hurt doing it. Something isnt right when the wye water level dropped a week ago and yet the lugg is still bang full and loads of water still lay on fields. The Lugg and wye are full of otters but nobody wants to advertise it because of people wanting to come and see them.

 

[unknownfarmer]

Six or seven hundred thousand to " repair" the damage is about £500 a metre. What can possibly cost that? Plant the whole bank in shrubs and scrub and that's it.

No one has actually said what damage actually occurred? Surely anything he does will be making it better than it was before the works

 

[Pistonbroke]

I don't know but I am fairly sure it was around the same figure as the fine IIRC.

Yes,I think you're about right,I was wondering how the EA came up with the estimate. If it is an estimate, surely he should only have to pay the actual cost which could be done for a tenth

 

[Flatland guy]

Yes,I think you're about right,I was wondering how the EA came up with the estimate. If it is an estimate, surely he should only have to pay the actual cost which could be done for a tenth

probably £590k for surveys, constant monitoring etc and 10K for some plants and to do the actual work!!

 

[Pistonbroke]

probably £590k for surveys, constant monitoring etc and 10K for some plants and to do the actual work!!

Like I said earlier, clipboards and ponytails. Farmer's son locally got qualified in some kind of environmental surveying crap and everyone thought he was mental. He gets £650 an hour for going to such jobs and compiling the report. Not an everyday job but I bet he loves it when his phone rings

 

[Lawless]

Mr Price was imprisoned and fined 600k IIRC and had to pay 600k to repair the damage. As he is speaking out I naturally presume he has paid the fine and paid the money to repair the damage. I think he is most annoyed that they had costed what it would be to repair the damage etc. and now they have the money to supposedly repair the environment nothing is happening, which until such time as anything does get done more or less means it was not an urgent issue whatsoever and the environment is not a concern after all.

I believe he was not fined - he went to prison, has to pay costs and pay for the restoration.

 

[Lakesdigger]

Sounds as though natural England are a big problem now. EA are useless that is a fact but natural England must put the brakes on a lot of sensible thinking.

NE and EA are pretty much the same outfit tbh, one can't do/allow anything without asking the other so you can't have one without the other in any case. Imho trying to tell us they are two seperate organisations is just a convenient way of complicating even further what should be simple decisions so f all happens.

 

[Lakesdigger]

Six or seven hundred thousand to " repair" the damage is about £500 a metre. What can possibly cost that? Plant the whole bank in shrubs and scrub and that's it.

It's boll*cks in any case, if the damage caused is to what nature being left alone to its thing on the riverbank had created the only way you can truly reinstate it is to leave it alone and let nature do its thing again. Which costs f all.

 

[br jones]

Six or seven hundred thousand to " repair" the damage is about £500 a metre. What can possibly cost that? Plant the whole bank in shrubs and scrub and that's it.

only 300metres so says damaged

 

[Pistonbroke]

only 300metres so says damaged

So many different accounts. Some say 750metres long both sides so 1500 total

 

[Mickeydredd]

He also did some work upstream of his farm so presumably thats where they got their distances from.

Landowner charged over River Lugg damage in Herefordshire

Charges are being brought by Natural England and the Environment Agency.

www.bbc.co.uk