Land Drainage

[Spencer]

We have it here
It's worse with plastic pipes or it could be that my plastic pipes are on land that's worse for Red iron
I would not expect to find Red Iron on the Sussex Downs though , even if its Loam over Clay ?

I believe ochre forms when you have organic matter and clay together..some of ours are almost blocked after 2 years. Need to go jetting this week funnily enough

 

[Spencer]

Tiles are a completely different entity to plastic pipe. Plastic pipes need gravel around them at the very least regardless of ground type imho, stone right to the top of your wanting to gather surfaces water as well. Tiles rely on being porous to let the water in but do actually draw it a bit as well which is why they work when backfilled with the sh*t you dug out.

Sorry that’s nonsense. Water gets into clay drains via the joints.
We have plastic pipe installed in marine clay with no permeable back fill and they work fine, not as good as backfilled ones but they work just fine. These have been installed properly tho on grade with GPS trencher with narrow chain. These drains just work better than those installed with a digger.

 

[hally]

We just sod our pipes, common practice around here. When digging the ditch put sods on one side of the trench and soil on the other. Then after putting then pipe in reverse the sods and lie them on the pipe.

 

[Dry Rot]

How about wool. Takes a long to rot

Surprised this hasn't even got a like! I know it has been mentioned before and I'm sure some have used it. I just can't remember how it worked! It works as a foundation for roads on bog land, I do know that.

 

[puppet]

Surprised this hasn't even got a like! I know it has been mentioned before and I'm sure some have used it. I just can't remember how it worked! It works as a foundation for roads on bog land, I do know that.

2 feet down with no oxygen it should keep soil out of a pipe and last for years. I pulled a rotten strainer out recently and the base was completely sound.
Wool is also cheap but does involve getting into the ditch to lay it

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Going to look at an MF 50 B digger tomorrow
Reliving my childhood here

 

[Boohoo]

If you can get a digger in you can get stone in. If you're draining away rising water rather than surface water you don't need a lot of stone over the pipe

 

[Derrick Hughes]

If you can get a digger in you can get stone in. If you're draining away rising water rather than surface water you don't need a lot of stone over the pipe

It's a shared track , one of those lorry mounted forklifts went up Monday, u
its got That stupid to strips of concrete with a gap in the middle, anyway his 3rd back wheel got stuck in the middle

 

[Wellytrack]

It's a shared track , one of those lorry mounted forklifts went up Monday, u
its got That stupid to strips of concrete with a gap in the middle, anyway his 3rd back wheel got stuck in the middle

Two dumper load to a lorry. Still don’t see how you can’t get stone in.

 

[Jonp]

Sorry that’s nonsense. Water gets into clay drains via the joints.
We have plastic pipe installed in marine clay with no permeable back fill and they work fine, not as good as backfilled ones but they work just fine. These have been installed properly tho on grade with GPS trencher with narrow chain. These drains just work better than those installed with a digger.

I've got a few clay drains running down my hills to a ditch, stamped with a late 1800s year, the ones I've found run really well. Only lightly butted together to let water in at the joints.

 

[JD6920s]

I've got a few clay drains running down my hills to a ditch, stamped with a late 1800s year, the ones I've found run really well. Only lightly butted together to let water in at the joints.

Clay pipes are porous, more water goes through the pipe walls than the joints.

 

[Stw88]

Clay pipes are porous, more water goes through the pipe walls than the joints.

Old feller round here that used to put drains in used to get a sample tile off all the suppliers and stand them in a bucket of water. The tile that soaked the water up the furthest would be the ones he used.

 

[Spencer]

I've got a few clay drains running down my hills to a ditch, stamped with a late 1800s year, the ones I've found run really well. Only lightly butted together to let water in at the joints.

Some of ours are still horse shoe type, laying on flat board of wood. Wood still good (in places)

 

[Spencer]

Clay pipes are porous, more water goes through the pipe walls than the joints.

Porous so much as they’ve a hole in each end?

 

[Boohoo]

It's a shared track , one of those lorry mounted forklifts went up Monday, u
its got That stupid to strips of concrete with a gap in the middle, anyway his 3rd back wheel got stuck in the middle

Avoid anything with 3 wheels then!

 

[Welderloon]

We used some surplus ceramic beads which were the wrong spec or a wrong order for an oil well, came in 20kg bags, works brilliantly, hand balling the bags was a pain & the beads got everywhere & were dangerously slippy on the concrete yard when we washed our boots off but they are designed to act as a filter.
Looked like big cat litter.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Sorted a Digger today after a few flood diversions

 

[Zebbedee]

Smart old 50b good diggers

 

[Wellytrack]

So your telling us you can get one of those things in but not a load of stone.

 

[Kevtherev]

So your telling us you can get one of those things in but not a load of stone.

Threads like this make me laugh all the drainage experts come out the woodwork.
Looking forward to Dez up to his bollox with 50B