Laying Road Scalpings

[Jerry]

Last week they relaid a stretch of road about a mile from here and I got them to tip the scalpings as think we can make good use of them, must be about 100tonne or so.

Most of it is pretty fine chippings and they also tipped the vacuum lorry a couple of times with more dusty material.

I am thinking bout making a hard standing area to the rear of one of our sheds that is currently scrub and waste grass, would be ideal to store machinery on and other storage at a future date.

Plan is to scrape back the top soil and clear vegetation, grad the land so there is a natural fall away from the building, put down some landscape fabric and then lay the scalpings.

Whats the best way to get a good surface that is relatively smooth and water proof. I have heard of rolling it then sprinkling diesel on it on a hot sunny day and then re rolling?

Any tips?

 

[ffukedfarmer]

Hire the biggest roller you can get your hands on and roll the hell out of it on a hot day. I think the environment agency would take a dim view of spraying with diesel, but should the roller you use leak diesel quite badly you may find the planings with go back almost to tarmac

 

[SilliamWhale]

I dont think diesel makes any difference long term

 

[bovrill]

The only person I know with a purely scalping yard that works, has got them laid about three feet deep!
The ones I've used have been as a surface topping over hardcore. Where there's been a bit of an accidental(!) spillage of diesel/waste oil they do roll down well,but will distort and cut up with a lot of heavy traffic without the courser base.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Best way with scalps is to form a camber and not move then too much else all the fines go to the bottom and the lumps to the top. Roll, roll & oh yes, roll again. Use the road sweepings as a top dressing. I'm assuming you already have a good consolidated base layer.
You'll need ear defenders as the reversing beeper drives you mad
The last track I did is two years old and not a pot-hole in sight!
SS

 

[Jerry]

Thanks all. Need to see where I can hire a roller from I think. Don't think Cambridge rolls would work. [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]

 

[frustratedfarmer]

Local hire centre have them, we used a big 32 ton job, put down a foot of chalk first then about 3 inches of Plainings, it's cheap and does the job but get the odd pothole.

 

[nick...]

I have known people to lay them,roll and sprinkle with diesel and set fire to them.they will return to how they were before removed from a road.
Nick...

 

[Lincs Lass]

Defiantly use geotex matting . Big ugly stuff in the bottom ,them bind the area with something smaller ,,compact all that down first and then a few inches of the scalpings rolled solid ,,it will have plenty of drainage and last for ever

 

[tomlad]

that black stuff and red stuff some naughty people mentioned , in my case I use road emulsion .
shocking suggestion .
roller we use has water sprinkler on drum, always seems black water when it goes off hire !!
getting the correct wetting is the science , to wet makes a soft paste , never seems to dry ?
it can make a very good road , if ur screwing big tyres about digging holes ? not so sure .
as said ideally big hard core base
we bedate about how it would be if u could mix the emulsion un plainings before laying ?
if u want to be posh then top with sealing grit from a tarmac plant ( tar covered sand ) but that is different stuff whenever it comes . will seal up the voids

 

[borntohunt]

can scalpings be laid successfully in cold weather like it is at present fooking freezing

 

[Mur Huwcun]

It will do at a push but would strongly recommend that you lay an extra skim on top mid summer, at least by then it will have settled and compacted well.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Scalps in any way of form are the best TOP DRESSING. Using them to make hardstanding alone will eventually cause grief. Start well ie, Terram or non woven depending on you soil structure then lumpy stuff, preferably 70mm down THEN your scalps. You'll not regret this as you'll have quite a lot left over for future use...
SS

PS I've just seen my original post on this and it says pretty much the same...
ss

 

[Lazy Sod]

A bit of confusion in this thread. The OP talks about scalpings, whilst I think that he means road planings. Scalpings come from a quarry. Other members mention scalpings, which do they mean?

 

[borntohunt]

I Mean road planings

 

[Hesston4860s]

Unless your putting 200mm of hardcore under planings your wasting your time and planings.

 

[Gaitken]

Any suggestions if you feel like you may have added too much diesel? On the most part the tar plains are fairly solid but near the end I was struggling to get the whacker plate across the area so think I may have added too much diesel?!

 

[Skintagain]

Any suggestions if you feel like you may have added too much diesel? On the most part the tar plains are fairly solid but near the end I was struggling to get the whacker plate across the area so think I may have added too much diesel?!

Fire them

 

[br jones]

You dont need diesel, hot day big roller

 

[Mydexta]

Can someone please enlighten me on the diesel usage??

diesel rots bitumen, if you spill some on a road It will turn brown over time and will rub out easily.
Tar squads wash their shovels and rakes in diesel as it keeps them clean.

how does it help bind plainings together????