Leaking water pipe

[Auckland Blue]

Must be a big pipe and a big leak to make half an acre unworkable. Would have thought the householder would have noticed a drop in pressure if it had been leaking for 6 Month.

If it's a steel main it can be repaired with a Viking Johnson rubber lined compression type fitting , I think, but chances are the main is stuffed and it will leak further up or down the line. If that is the case it's bite the bullet time and put in a plastic one.

If I was the householder I would try to come to some amicable agreement with the farmer. Compensate for crop loss from this harvest and next harvest as well, even if he left it fallow for a year to dry up. If they can't agree a sensible sum between them then presumably the liable parties household insurance will be claimed against.

 

[Fergieman]

With land at ten k an acre if somebody flooded half an acre of mine I would be looking for a lot more than 100 quid

The £10,000 acre hasn't gone anywhere, fix the leak and it will be back to full production. 1/2 acre of wheat for 1 year not really getting upset about.

 

[Alicecow]

That's what I thought. Slip him a hundred and call it a years rent. Mend leak, ground dries up. It was stubble all year and he's just come to turn ground over for planting now. Where the heck does compensation come from, half an acre of wheat at £130 per tonne...doubt it's going to put him in the poor house.

Just heard the farmers son owes my mate £300 for work he had done on a car which he never paid. Mate never chased it as he always felt the son was good for it one day, and didn't want to annoy the family chasing unpaid bills as son's a bit of a rouge and given them stress over the years.

Does the father know of the son's debt?
Exchange is no robbery.
Fix the leak. Buy the pipe properly so same thing can't happen again.
Then call it quits.

 

[Grain Buyer]

With land at ten k an acre if somebody flooded half an acre of mine I would be looking for a lot more than 100 quid

he's not buying it is he. How much do you pay in rent with land at 10K?

 

[chickens and wheat]

We had a similar thing with a Yorkshire water pipe, one in a long line of leaks in same fields but more serious than the others. We got an agent in and he got £1200 from YW plus his own fees. then it was a dry autumn and we cropped all the land , lucky it was a bad leak.
But I probably wouldn't do this to a neighbour, unless he was being totally ignorant, even then its probably a dangerous first step leading to future battles

 

[multi power]

he's not buying it is he. How much do you pay in rent with land at 10K?

£250 an acre appears to be the going rate

 

[Kidds]

£250 an acre appears to be the going rate

You would struggle to get £100 here.

 

[Honest john]

It kind off depends on the soil type. On light free draining then it will soon turn around.
On Clay soils could be a few years getting back to normal.

If it's someone you would want to stay friends with say you will be looking for compensation, when he says how much say £500 & gauge the response.

 

[Grassman]

£250 an acre appears to be the going rate

You can have all mine for that!
And a lot of farmers on here would be more than happy with £2500 for a ten acre field for doing nothing.

 

[multi power]

You can have all mine for that!
And a lot of farmers on here would be more than happy with £2500 for a ten acre field for doing nothing.

I might be a bit thick, but not that dumb to pay that much, but plenty do

 

[Grain Buyer]

amazing. So the letter turned up this week from the "agent" claiming 2 acres of field is unusable and the farmer has lost this years crop and next years crop. He submitted a calculation of 2 acres at 4t to the acre at £130 per tonne = £1040 for this year and an extra £1040 for next year...total £2080.

What the agent has forgotten is, the field and the problem wet area is only 100 yrds from the house, so a quick walk down the lane shows a lovely cleared stubble field, admittedly with a couple of ruts where the combine hit the wet spot, but it's been able to travel and harvest the crop. You can also see the wet area, which is no more than half an acre, and the whole field is still in stubble (plenty of photos taken), so it's not like this wet area prevented him from working the rest of the field so how can he claim for a crop he hasn't planted!

I've suggested £100 is more than generous, and to take it off his sons bill....what a moron.

 

[joe soapy]

We got a water main running past the yard, whenever it leaks the water board usually deny
for months. Had another one this spring, so piped it into a drain and collection pit we pump from
to water the farm during dry conditions. They was round today looking for a leak,, we knew nowt this time

 

[Auckland Blue]

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What the agent has forgotten is, the field and the problem wet area is only 100 yrds from the house, so a quick walk down the lane shows a lovely cleared stubble field, admittedly with a couple of ruts where the combine hit the wet spot, but it's been able to travel and harvest the crop. You can also see the wet area, which is no more than half an acre, and the whole field is still in stubble (plenty of photos taken), so it's not like this wet area prevented him from working the rest of the field so how can he claim for a crop he hasn't planted!

I've suggested £100 is more than generous, and to take it off his sons bill....what a moron.[/QUOTE]

amazing. So the letter turned up this week from the "agent" claiming 2 acres of field is unusable and the farmer has lost this years crop and next years crop. He submitted a calculation of 2 acres at 4t to the acre at £130 per tonne = £1040 for this year and an extra £1040 for next year...total £2080.

What the agent has forgotten is, the field and the problem wet area is only 100 yrds from the house, so a quick walk down the lane shows a lovely cleared stubble field, admittedly with a couple of ruts where the combine hit the wet spot, but it's been able to travel and harvest the crop. You can also see the wet area, which is no more than half an acre, and the whole field is still in stubble (plenty of photos taken), so it's not like this wet area prevented him from working the rest of the field so how can he claim for a crop he hasn't planted!

I've suggested £100 is more than generous, and to take it off his sons bill....what a moron.

 

[Auckland Blue]

Sorry pressed wrong button. Grain Buyer this is a try on by the sounds of it. Must have been a hell of a leak to lose the produce from 2 acres of land. Can they prove the lose for 2016 and are they planning to crop that area for harvest 2017? if its drilled now, you know the answer, if its ploughed for a spring crop ditto. Does your friend have a meter reading for the leak period, if so the amount of water through the meter is quantifiable and after usage is deducted the balance could be attributed to likely crop loss. This sounds messy and has passed beyond two neighbours sorting the job out "man to man" Once you get agents involved its expensive and on the face of it your friend is having his leg lifted. Does he fight it or turn it over to his insurance company?

 

[Grain Buyer]

no meter readings, and wont be turning it over to insurance. Turns out he called the agent yesterday afternoon, when he questioned the agents figures the agent started stuttering, coughed and then asked him what he felt was fair! Just trying it on as you say. Thing is, agents, whilst massaging the figures, should still have to work with in practical allowances. If you can't crop 2 acres for 2017, then the loss is the "profit" that land would give you, not 4t x £130.....unless you can farm for free.

At the end of the day this will come down to a couple of hundred quid...pathetic.

 

[caveman]

He best put in for a ccj for the three hundred quid owing and take it from there.

 

[caveman]

See if they're brave enough to escalate things with a counter claim.

 

[milkloss]

I find these kind of arguments get silly. Sure the son might owe a few hundred quid but that's got nothing to do with a water leak has it? They need to grow up, one argument at a time. Really annoys me when people try and pass a debt to someone else:

Paul: Pete, you owe me a tenner.......
Pete: yeah mate, I lent nobby a tenner up the pub last night, get it from him.

It's no better than that imo.

 

[Grain Buyer]

Paul- Pete you owe me a tenner
Pete- yeah mate, your son needed a tenner last night, bit of an emergency, I gave it to him.

 

[caveman]

I find these kind of arguments get silly. Sure the son might owe a few hundred quid but that's got nothing to do with a water leak has it? They need to grow up, one argument at a time. Really annoys me when people try and pass a debt to someone else:

Paul: Pete, you owe me a tenner.......
Pete: yeah mate, I lent nobby a tenner up the pub last night, get it from him.


It's no better than that imo.

But the three hundred quid is a real debt according to previous posts.
The dad probably gave the son the cash to pay it and he spent it elswhere anyways.