Lime spreading rates.

Derrick Hughes

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Just to say you won't get a decent crop of silage without potash ,if it's low your nitrogen is a waste of money
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Potassium, , is a key ingredient for well-fed, healthy grass. Plants use potassium to absorb water from the soil and create the sugars they need to flourish and fight off disease. Heavy rainfall can wash potassium out of your soil, so a regular 'top-up' of potash is often needed
 
Just to say you won't get a decent crop of silage without potash ,if it's low your nitrogen is a waste of money
This :
Potassium, , is a key ingredient for well-fed, healthy grass. Plants use potassium to absorb water from the soil and create the sugars they need to flourish and fight off disease. Heavy rainfall can wash potassium out of your soil, so a regular 'top-up' of potash is often needed

Potassium does not readily leach from soils save those that are very sandy/stony and with very low clay content.

Potash is removed in impressive quantities by heavy crops of silage, hay or straw. It must be replaced or productivity will decline in short order.
 

Whinfield Herefords

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Livestock Farmer
Imo, do your liming. Pand k is soil food which is best put on at the back end as we are trying to build up the reserves in the soil. Guessing your grazing needs p , and cutting needs p+k. Its plant food you need to feed the grass for growth, ie nitrogen and sulphur. Dont bother testing for 3-4 years
My grazing fields are lime deficient but there actually ok on the p & k side, it’s just my 3 cutting fields that are low, I’m planning on giving a good covering of fym in autumn but just wondered about now.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion
Sorry to bombard the thread . Looking for tipped calcium lime into sy23, west wales, has it jumped up in price? . Was paying around £25 £26 last year. Been quoted £37.50 delivered today. Or 24 collected.
Approx £30 ton Limestone Delivered £26 for slag , arttics if your 5 miles from me . Not sure
 

YELROM

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North Yorkshire
Sorry to bombard the thread . Looking for tipped calcium lime into sy23, west wales, has it jumped up in price? . Was paying around £25 £26 last year. Been quoted £37.50 delivered today. Or 24 collected.
Was talking to our local quarry the other day and they said there lime was going up from £4.50/t ex yard to £5.50/t ex yard when they have to use white diesel
But this in North Yorkshire
 
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Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion
What’s the analysis please ?
I have asked before as genuinely interested but no reply.
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Remember, all the quarries have been forced to switch to white diesel instead of red now!
yea my local sandstone quarry has put everything up 2-4quid a ton and they dont think thats covering their new costs so another £3 is on its way. Theyre also being screwed by brexit as machine parts and spares can take 3 to 4 weeks to come to the UK and cost 35% more, so costs to come from their.
The hauler I use for my groundwork's business has put his milage rate up by 35p a mile and another 10p next week and he still says hes worse off than before xmas. He was off last week for 4 days waiting on a hydraulic connector - used to be off the shelf.
The whole system is quite brittle at the moment.
 
It is, very brittle.

Trying to make a living out of it every day is getting to be a fools pastime.
I take brewers grains from a local brewery - largeish one and theyve cancled all their brewing this week - Cant get malted grain in at any price as no haulage from maltsers, malthouse cant get grain due to no wagons, and also no imports coming in currently, including Previously paid malting wheat being double sold for bread back to France. - The system is literally on a knife edge across the board.
 

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