Lump Sum Exit Scheme

[farmerm]

I would never be in favour of the government devaluing the pound merely to suit agriculture.

and it probably would be of limited help given agriculture’s reliance on imported fuel/fert/chemicals/steel etc

 

[glasshouse]

NZ does have its own rugby team in the UK. London New Zealand formed in 1926 which pre dates the removal of NZ subsidies by a number of years. Go to any rugby club around the world and you will generally find a Kiwi or two on the team, even your past captain, Englands most capped hooker of all time is a Kiwi.
New Zealand agriculture was on its arse, not due to the government though, it was due to being too reliant on the UK for exports, once the UK joined the EEC those exports were capped leaving NZ looking for other markets, this they have done remarkable well.

Our local town produced a nz rugby team.
Thats how many there were
Nz economy was on its arse because the nz govt mishandled the situation, particularly hiking interest rates

 

[glasshouse]

I would never be in favour of the government devaluing the pound merely to suit agriculture.

It suits more than just farming

 

[stewart]

Our local town produced a nz rugby team.
Thats how many there were
Nz economy was on its arse because the nz govt mishandled the situation, particularly hiking interest rates

the New Zealand government handled the situation very well given the circumstances that had to operate under, it is one of the reasons we now have such a vibrant agricultural economy and one of the freest economies in the world, second to Singapore.
The government we now have in place are a different matter, they are doing their best to fu¢k things up.

 

[glasshouse]

the New Zealand government handled the situation very well given the circumstances that had to operate under, it is one of the reasons we now have such a vibrant agricultural economy and one of the freest economies in the world, second to Singapore.
The government we now have in place are a different matter, they are doing their best to fu¢k things up.

And a housing crisis.
I dont agree that they handled it well at all
Interest rates were ridiculous
They threw the baby out with the bathwater

 

[B'o'B]

the New Zealand government handled the situation very well given the circumstances that had to operate under, it is one of the reasons we now have such a vibrant agricultural economy and one of the freest economies in the world, second to Singapore.
The government we now have in place are a different matter, they are doing their best to fu¢k things up.

One of the biggest reasons NZ have such a vibrant agricultural economy is the rise of China. This has been boosted by China’s contaminated milk scandals which have meant anyone in China who can afford to buy imported milk products does so, which has been fully exploited by NZ (and why wouldn’t you)
NZ does do Ag very well (a long with lots of other things I must add). NZ Farmers seem to have had a pretty free hand to do what they want to boost production, but isn’t that perhaps beginning to change? When I was there in 2019 there was quite a bit of talk about tightening regulations on water pollution from Ag, has that come in yet or has it gone away?

 

[stewart]

And a housing crisis.
I dont agree that they handled it well at all
Interest rates were ridiculous
They threw the baby out with the bathwater

Interest rates were high the world over, so NZ no different at the time.

Housing crisis, what housing crisis?

 

[stewart]

One of the biggest reasons NZ have such a vibrant agricultural economy is the rise of China. This has been boosted by China’s contaminated milk scandals which have meant anyone in China who can afford to buy imported milk products does so, which has been fully exploited by NZ (and why wouldn’t you)
NZ does do Ag very well (a long with lots of other things I must add). NZ Farmers seem to have had a pretty free hand to do what they want to boost production, but isn’t that perhaps beginning to change? When I was there in 2019 there was quite a bit of talk about tightening regulations on water pollution from Ag, has that come in yet or has it gone away?

The rise of China has helped although I do not believe that is the biggest reason for a vibrant agricultural economy. The primary sectors in New Zealand are largely successful due to the infrastructure in place, from production through to delivering goods into market, generally through producer owned cooperatives, unfortunately NZ is moving away from that model to a more corporate structure , which in my view is not good for the industries involved.
There is more compliance costs now involved with primary industries, particularly the livestock sectors, the Green Party, aided by the popular press, have targeted livestock farmers, in the main dairying, often quoting sound bites along the lines of dirty dairying, an increasing urban population has been sucked in by the propaganda blaming farmers for what they see as polluted waterways (whilst the same urban population is polluting their own waterways with human effluent). In reality our waterways are fairly clean, the majority of rivers are fenced off from livestock, we drink water straight out of a lake with no issues at all.
To increase stock numbers or convert a sheep and beef farm to dairying now needs council permission in many areas, this government we currently have in power seems intent on destroying our biggest exports earners, they really have no understanding of what drives NZ.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

I'm more than happy for you to visit and see the way I farm. I'm seriously passionate about taking practical steps towards farming regeneratively and improving local eco systems etc. If I was you I wouldn't be too quick to draw conclusions about people you have never met.

Been to a LOT of Estates in my time and I mean a lot, and I can form my own opinion as well. To some my opinion matters and to that end I'm happy. I am one, who in a small way has put their money where their mouth is. I quite like the idea that you have taken practical steps to work towards regenerative agriculture and I respect you for that.
I gather that L & L Somerleyton don't cut it with you much
I'm not that bothered as I have that which I started on barren agricultural land fourteen years ago which will continue and will continue to be a wild-live haven even though it is only a small piece of the cut carpet.
Slightly smaller than this award winning place but based on similar lines;https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/busine...servation-award-winner-2018-hole-farm-1396030

 

[No wot]

[QUOTE="wanton dwarf, post: 7512643, member:

If footpathers cannot cope with livestock then they should find another route, there is no need for anyone to walk on any particular footpath these days - it's a leisure activity.
[/QUOTE] " it's a leisure activity " so is beef farming 9 yrs out of 10

 

[midlandslad]

Hopefully we will get the lump sum exit consultation later in the week.

 

[Still Farming]

https://www.facebook.com/228735667216/posts/10158777858667217

 

[Werzle]

Multiple threads running this story, i cant see many retiring after a year when prices have been good and farmers have felt wanted for once.

 

[Overby]

Just been mentioned by Steve Wright on R2. "Farmers offered 50 - 100k to retire and encourage new industry entrants". No more said....cue hysterics from the bedwetting listeners.

 

[Still Farming]

Just been mentioned by Steve Wright on R2. "Farmers offered 50 - 100k to retire and encourage new industry entrants". No more said....cue hysterics from the bedwetting listeners.

Every business wants schemes now ,do they???