Maize 2023

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
This was doing a good job where i dropped westerwolds seeds off yesterday
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TomDafis

Member
Maybe a little premature - but planning on growing more maize next year, but on marginal land. Heavy land 700+ feet above sea level. What variety works best for this situation? Had massive crop off P7326, but very small cobs. (all plants had double cobbs). This was on more suitable land for maize.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Is that the one where your not allowed to cut the grass for first cut. Thought it also had to be down before the 10th.
sowing date 'flexible' because of season.
recommended grass, to take early silage off, before maize again.

seemed to be a different 'attitude', like they want you in ! This is to use as an excuse, they are doing 'something' to offset their sewage releasing, openly admitted they were the 'worst' offenders.

it all follows a 'pattern', green cover, over winter, early cut of high protein grass silage, energy from maize. Herbal leys, no N, good grazing etc, reducing pollution.

l think on the herbal leys, SFI is the better one, but b-all in it, we will be doing a mix of the two. £150 ac, not to be sneezed at, for something we have been doing for 2/3 years anyway.

Now we have to work out what we can do on other rented ground, and explain to l/lords !
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Unreal crops of maize about, doubt theres been a better year
massive, even on our driest ground. Really ripened off this week.

we have a betting round going on, will the contractor's forager actually cope with the maize/millet/sorghum mix ? Unfortunately, can't cut much more than a 'sample' cut, estimations vary between 20 and 30 tons/acre.

as game cover, its earning good money, probably to dense though.
 
We've just cut our maize here in Northern Ireland yesterday and the weather is looking good for the next 10 days. What crop could I plant now to be harvested at the end of April next year before maize again. Westerworlds, forage rye?
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
massive, even on our driest ground. Really ripened off this week.

we have a betting round going on, will the contractor's forager actually cope with the maize/millet/sorghum mix ? Unfortunately, can't cut much more than a 'sample' cut, estimations vary between 20 and 30 tons/acre.

as game cover, its earning good money, probably to dense though.
Pictures paint a thousand words.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Pictures paint a thousand words.
we are still not back on system fully, since hacked 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 terrifying what info they can get out of a piece of complicated plastic, now started ringing with 'fraud on bank a/c', with more detail than they should have. Paypal a/c been attacked several times, but failed.

all passwords, card etc changed, no important p/words 'saved', all renewed with very complicated ones.

on an old one at present, and g/children, nor their parents can get phone to talk to it.

least l didn't lose any money, and learnt a lot about security on line.

l have no confidence in my hacked laptop, nearly new, thinking the best way, for me, is to buy a new one, which won't be popular.

but photo's there will be, just when ? It will be an enlightening photo, whether its a one off, or potential 🤷‍♂️ And will get an analysis done on fresh sample.
What is the best way to prepare ground for grass seed?
ours will be dd into stubble with our vaderstaat drill.
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
sowing date 'flexible' because of season.
recommended grass, to take early silage off, before maize again.

seemed to be a different 'attitude', like they want you in ! This is to use as an excuse, they are doing 'something' to offset their sewage releasing, openly admitted they were the 'worst' offenders.

it all follows a 'pattern', green cover, over winter, early cut of high protein grass silage, energy from maize. Herbal leys, no N, good grazing etc, reducing pollution.

l think on the herbal leys, SFI is the better one, but b-all in it, we will be doing a mix of the two. £150 ac, not to be sneezed at, for something we have been doing for 2/3 years anyway.

Now we have to work out what we can do on other rented ground, and explain to l/lords !
Just double check your small print. On the Wessex water Tone and parrot scheme you can't apply any nitrogen organic or inorganic to the cover crop so it would be tricky to get a bulky high protein cut.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Just double check your small print. On the Wessex water Tone and parrot scheme you can't apply any nitrogen organic or inorganic to the cover crop so it would be tricky to get a bulky high protein cut.
that's the diff between SFI and w/board, as we look to reduce N use anyway, on those few acres, we will see if the claims of no N needed, are true.

on what we already have in, very little N is used, its something all of us will find, restrictions on fert use, will creep in, we are an easy target, w/boards are the main polluters, blame will be shifted towards us.

but, with the state of the world, Ukraine, and now Israel, l wonder how fast the food security question, will register on politicians brains, and any meaningful carbon reduction, has literally been blown away, in those 2 areas, and it could so easily spread.
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
that's the diff between SFI and w/board, as we look to reduce N use anyway, on those few acres, we will see if the claims of no N needed, are true.

on what we already have in, very little N is used, its something all of us will find, restrictions on fert use, will creep in, we are an easy target, w/boards are the main polluters, blame will be shifted towards us.

but, with the state of the world, Ukraine, and now Israel, l wonder how fast the food security question, will register on politicians brains, and any meaningful carbon reduction, has literally been blown away, in those 2 areas, and it could so easily spread.
Your planning on making first cut Italian with no N or slurry and hoping for high quality silage. I think you will be surprised at how yellow your grass will be and how poor the yield. My chap simply forgot the second dose of N on one paddock it had the first dose and slurry and it was only about half the crop.
 

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