Marshall hydraulic push out dungspreaders

[DrDunc]

How will a Marshall cope with sand slurry on wearing parts? We run a couple orbitals and apart from the rubber seal on back door there isn't really any wearing parts and the bearings are well away from muck. Unlike a west! Downside is useless on strawy muck & tend to get tractors dirty.

The Marshall has no bearings near any muck, and the only things that sand will wear are the seals on the front pusher.

The beater rotors have large triangular sections on the bottom roughly 40cm section below the spiral. These then connect to the bottom circular discs. These paddles spread slurry very well, and rate is easily controlled with the standard slurry door.

Another advantage of the paddles is the ability to get rid of large stones without any drama. I have accidentally loaded a stone larger than a football. The first thing I knew about a stone being there, was seeing it flying across the field in the tractor mirror

The only time I've broken a shear bolt was forgetting to turn off the pusher when turning at the endrig. It took longer to renew the bolt than it did to grape out enough dung from the beaters for it to restart.

With slurry I insert the pusher speed controller lock pin. I move the pusher in steps to keep the level of slurry fairly constant against the slurry door, instead of leaving the tractor spool switched on and allowing the pusher to travel back at a constant speed as you do for solid dung (mine is set to take 4 minutes to push out a load).

 

[spitfire]

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Yes, they're good.

I demo'd / hired various rear discharge and a West dual side spreader. I was sceptical of the Marshall concept, but after failing to find a machine that could spread both liquid hen slurry without leaving strips, and straw dung without bridging, I got a demo of the Marshall Vesuvius.

I bought the machine after the second load.

Setting the pusher speed can be awkward until you figure it out.

You can't heap dung above the beater height, but the sides and beaters are very tall. The high sides vastly increases the volume of slurry it will contain in comparison to floor chain rear discharge machine.

Having no floor chains means no leaks, and if you're looking for second hand spreader, you won't be buying something that's going to need thousands spent renewing the floor drive components.

The axle is further back than on floor chain rear discharge machines, so there it's less weight transfer off the require rear wheels web the shower is near empty, useful for spreading slippy slopes.

On an old used machine, look at the condition of the seals around the pusher door that slide against the body, and if it's clean enough the seal and metal support plate on the bottom of the slurry door.

They're all easy and inexpensive to renew, but are price bargaining.

There really isn't anything to go wrong with them apart from the plumber block bearings on the pto shaft, or the two square housing bearings on the top of the vertical beaters. There is remote greasing of these, do they should've give terrible, but the whole lot could be replaced for a couple of hundred quid.

you,ll be ok until you fill it without pulling the pusher back

 

[DrDunc]

you,ll be ok until you fill it without pulling the pusher back

Are you admitting to doing that?

The big silver ram extended the length of the spreader when it's empty is a bit of a giveaway.

Mind, there are still folks that are stupid enough to try and beat trains at level crossings, so maybe

 

[Jim75]

you,ll be ok until you fill it without pulling the pusher back

One of marshalls own guys did that on a demo at there farm. They always chuckled about it

 

[spitfire]

Are you admitting to doing that?

The big silver ram extended the length of the spreader when it's empty is a bit of a giveaway.

Mind, there are still folks that are stupid enough to try and beat trains at level crossings, so maybe

no but our contractors did we have good days and bad days ,bit different to forking out a mf 19 with 3t in it thanks for trying to take the mick

 

[Daniel]

Do they make them with horizontal beaters and discs for poultry muck?

Fliegl make a push off trailer which you can add the muckspreading attachment to the back of but it is ££££££

 

[DrDunc]

Do they make them with horizontal beaters and discs for poultry muck?

Fliegl make a push off trailer which you can add the muckspreading attachment to the back of but it is ££££££

No, only vertical beaters.

However the design of the beater has two triangular paddles below the spiral and above the horizontal bottom discs (as I've described above).

The paddles spread hen muck very effectively up to about 12m, be it semi solid sludge, or stuff that's turned to slurry in the rain.

I've spread thousands of tonnes of hen muck through my Marshall Vesuvius. The spread pattern isn't as wide as a horizontal disc discharge, but it is much more even than any other rear discharge that I've tried. It also doesn't leave a thick strip where it leaks out below the floor chains.

If you can live with the narrower spread width of the Marshall (which is as good as or usually better than other vertical beater machines with hen muck), get a demo from someone who knows how to set it up for hen muck. The Marshall is a lot of machine for an awful lot less money.

 

[Forever Fendt]

How will a Marshall cope with sand slurry on wearing parts? We run a couple orbitals and apart from the rubber seal on back door there isn't really any wearing parts and the bearings are well away from muck. Unlike a west! Downside is useless on strawy muck & tend to get tractors dirty.

i don't have one but have looked at them at shows and i don't think sand eat would be a problem as

No, only vertical beaters.

However the design of the beater has two triangular paddles below the spiral and above the horizontal bottom discs (as I've described above).

The paddles spread hen muck very effectively up to about 12m, be it semi solid sludge, or stuff that's turned to slurry in the rain.

I've spread thousands of tonnes of hen muck through my Marshall Vesuvius. The spread pattern isn't as wide as a horizontal disc discharge, but it is much more even than any other rear discharge that I've tried. It also doesn't leave a thick strip where it leaks out below the floor chains.

If you can live with the narrower spread width of the Marshall (which is as good as or usually better than other vertical beater machines with hen muck), get a demo from someone who knows how to set it up for hen muck. The Marshall is a lot of machine for an awful lot less money.

having repaired a western with 4 worn out chains worn out sprockets and 2/3rd of the slats missing i am with you on this one @DrDunc and if the beaters are fabricated as they used to be with stepped flights they will last better as the continual flights wear at the bottom and start buckling down due to the upward motion of the beater and a good point about the gap at the back where the chains return

 

[mtx.jag]

What size models are available?

 

[Tim1989]

The Marshall has no bearings near any muck, and the only things that sand will wear are the seals on the front pusher.

The beater rotors have large triangular sections on the bottom roughly 40cm section below the spiral. These then connect to the bottom circular discs. These paddles spread slurry very well, and rate is easily controlled with the standard slurry door.

Another advantage of the paddles is the ability to get rid of large stones without any drama. I have accidentally loaded a stone larger than a football. The first thing I knew about a stone being there, was seeing it flying across the field in the tractor mirror

The only time I've broken a shear bolt was forgetting to turn off the pusher when turning at the endrig. It took longer to renew the bolt than it did to grape out enough dung from the beaters for it to restart.

With slurry I insert the pusher speed controller lock pin. I move the pusher in steps to keep the level of slurry fairly constant against the slurry door, instead of leaving the tractor spool switched on and allowing the pusher to travel back at a constant speed as you do for solid dung (mine is set to take 4 minutes to push out a load).

Thanks. I'll see if my local dealer will do a demo. Sounds like be right machine for us. When spreading sand you need machines with minimum moving parts. It destroys machines in no time.

 

[Forever Fendt]

@Marshall Trailers sounds like some positive interest in your spreaders perhaps you have some video to post or could tell us some more

 

[Marshall Trailers]

Not used one but the spreader looks very well built ,Someone i know has his muck speed by a contractor who has 2 of these and the spread pattern of the fields i have seen is excellent but beware they do not seem to hold value as well as true rear discharge ,a good point if buying secondhand though

In a lot of ways they hold their value better as there are no floor chains to be concerned about when looking at a second-hand machine; the floor chains are always the problem and are expensive to replace. The pushing ram can be refurbished quite economically if required, although the ram is purpose built for the spreader by a company that supplies rams for construction excavators and many tractor manufacturers.

 

[Marshall Trailers]

How will a Marshall cope with sand slurry on wearing parts? We run a couple orbitals and apart from the rubber seal on back door there isn't really any wearing parts and the bearings are well away from muck. Unlike a west! Downside is useless on strawy muck & tend to get tractors dirty.

The body of the machine is constructed from 4mm steel, and all the moving parts are mounted away from the slurry, which makes a big difference to the lifespan of the spreader. The wearings parts you would have to keep an eye on would be the rubber seals around the pushing door and at the bottom of the slurry door; these are made from conveyor belt rubber so are tough but like everything they do wear out eventually.

 

[Marshall Trailers]

Thanks. I'll see if my local dealer will do a demo. Sounds like be right machine for us. When spreading sand you need machines with minimum moving parts. It destroys machines in no time.

If you would like to private message me with your details I can help organise things with our dealer.

 

[Marshall Trailers]

@Marshall Trailers sounds like some positive interest in your spreaders perhaps you have some video to post or could tell us some more

We are just away to launch an updated design at the LAMMA show in January, and I will have updated photos and videos in the next few days, which will be on our website and facebook page. I will also post them on here.

 

[Marshall Trailers]

What size models are available?

The updated range for 2017 have increased capacity, we now offer a 10-ton, 13-ton and 15-ton models.

 

[Marshall Trailers]

Here is a preview of the new VES range launching at LAMMA 2017, pictured is the VES/2000 model.

 

[mtx.jag]

The updated range for 2017 have increased capacity, we now offer a 10-ton, 13-ton and 15-ton models.

What's the smallest current model?

 

[Marshall Trailers]

The smallest model up until 2017 was the 9-ton model, it has now become the 10-ton model.

 

[kill]

The smallest model up until 2017 was the 9-ton model, it has now become the 10-ton model.

Are the changes just a slight increase in size? Or have there been other changes???