Mass ban on Red Tractor?

[warksfarmer]

It causes mental health issues which now have been reported to relevant charities. It forces farmers to pay to access their own markets. It is not law and holds no legal standing in this country.

Email them and tell them how you feel and that you are resigning your membership and that you want all of your subs back from the day the NFU set it up. It’s never created a premium price for anything and the general public do not recognise the brand.

[email protected]

 

[spin cycle]

it was effecting my already 'fragile' mental health...thats why i left

 

[Jon]

I would love to, but would be unable to sell my crops.

I cannot think of a local trader or end user that will accept non assured wheat for example.

 

[Jerry]

I would love to, but would be unable to sell my crops.

I cannot think of a local trader or end user that will accept non assured wheat for example.

Many end users will take non assured grain, indeed nearly all the end users of milling wheat do so as they cant source "assured" grain in the UK to meet their demand/spec.

Hence you rarely see a red tractor logo on a loaf of bread.

 

[joep83]

Would love to ban them but they have every Dairyman's knackers in a vice

 

[warksfarmer]

Many end users will take non assured grain, indeed nearly all the end users of milling wheat do so as they cant source "assured" grain in the UK to meet their demand/spec.

Hence you rarely see a red tractor logo on a loaf of bread.

It’s starting don’t worry. The merchants are as fed up as the farmers. Markets are emerging. Sit tight.

 

[Bokey]

Would love to ban them but they have every Dairyman's knackers in a vice

Dairy farmers need to unite an say no, we all need to stand together and say no if they start picking on an individual farm we should all fight their fight we have the upper hand in reality

 

[robbie]

I would love to, but would be unable to sell my crops.

I cannot think of a local trader or end user that will accept non assured wheat for example.

Any of the local merchants can and will find homes for non assured, it's just it takes them a little more time and effort.

 

[digger64]

Any of the local merchants can and will find homes for non assured, it's just it takes them a little more time and effort.

Of course they can - just a means/excuse to make deduction/margin which means the opportunity to buy at below the going rate whilst selling at the going rate or very nearly - its good business its that simple especially when some one else pays all the potential extra costs/admin incurred !

 

[ollie989898]

Would love to ban them but they have every Dairyman's knackers in a vice

ALL of you need to pick a date and write to your buyer and state that you intend to cease complying with red tractor assurance from a particular date. You will, however, aim to remain compliant with the particulars of the assurance scheme operated by your buyer.

It's that simple. Arla producers state the 1st April 2023, Saputo the 1st May, etc. If you all turned your backs on it simultaneously they'd be screwed. Even a collection of say 10-15 sizeable farms in a particular region who all sell to the same buyer would make them sit up and take notice as the milk volume involved will be substantial.

Beef and sheep producers have more options open to them, good stock always sell well regardless of any rubber stamps involved.

 

[Barleymow]

I would love to, but would be unable to sell my crops.

I cannot think of a local trader or end user that will accept non assured wheat for example.

If everyone did it it will end

 

[Bald Rick]

ALL of you need to pick a date and write to your buyer and state that you intend to cease complying with red tractor assurance from a particular date. You will, however, aim to remain compliant with the particulars of the assurance scheme operated by your buyer.

It's that simple. Arla producers state the 1st April 2023, Saputo the 1st May, etc. If you all turned your backs on it simultaneously they'd be screwed. Even a collection of say 10-15 sizeable farms in a particular region who all sell to the same buyer would make them sit up and take notice as the milk volume involved will be substantial.

Beef and sheep producers have more options open to them, good stock always sell well regardless of any rubber stamps involved.

Sounds so simple written down ... but the chances of even 20pc of farms doing that is slim to none

And slim is out of town

 

[Tim G]

ALL of you need to pick a date and write to your buyer and state that you intend to cease complying with red tractor assurance from a particular date. You will, however, aim to remain compliant with the particulars of the assurance scheme operated by your buyer.

It's that simple. Arla producers state the 1st April 2023, Saputo the 1st May, etc. If you all turned your backs on it simultaneously they'd be screwed. Even a collection of say 10-15 sizeable farms in a particular region who all sell to the same buyer would make them sit up and take notice as the milk volume involved will be substantial.

Beef and sheep producers have more options open to them, good stock always sell well regardless of any rubber stamps involved.

There is a difference between milk and corn. Corn not sold this month can still be in a shed to sell next month, or the month after. Unsold milk soon becomes a mess.
If there is going to be a change/reform/whatever, it really needs to come from another sector first.

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

We had out beef and lamb inspection on Tuesday. To be fair the young lass that did it was a farmers daughter and she was spot on. She said lots of beef and sheep farmers are leaving the scheme

 

[tullah]

RT and the non farming unions practices are similar to the woke infection thats been allowed a free run across the country. Kemi and Suella have started to root out these curses set upon us.

 

[Sid]

It causes mental health issues which now have been reported to relevant charities. It forces farmers to pay to access their own markets. It is not law and holds no legal standing in this country.

Email them and tell them how you feel and that you are resigning your membership and that you want all of your subs back from the day the NFU set it up. It’s never created a premium price for anything and the general public do not recognise the brand.

[email protected]

Ban red tractor from where? Your farm? The supermarkets?

 

[DaveGrohl]

There is a difference between milk and corn. Corn not sold this month can still be in a shed to sell next month, or the month after. Unsold milk soon becomes a mess.
If there is going to be a change/reform/whatever, it really needs to come from another sector first.

You’re absolutely correct. However, the one sector that could utterly slaughter RT is the dairy sector precisely because of the perishable nature of milk. If every grain producer quit simultaneously it would take a while to collapse. If every milk producer quit it would be over within a few days. What would the dairy companies do exactly? Ship the same volume of fresh milk in from abroad? Milk that isn’t RT assured?

There was a chap called John Loftus (?) who managed to organise a large number of dairy farmers many years ago. Doing similar to get rid of RT would appear to be a much easier job because it would benefit every single dairy farmer in the country without exception. There is an open goal there, just needs one person to start to organise it. Stick together? Why wouldn’t every dairy farmer want this? There is nooooo benefit to not being involved.

 

[Tim G]

You’re absolutely correct. However, the one sector that could utterly slaughter RT is the dairy sector precisely because of the perishable nature of milk. If every grain producer quit simultaneously it would take a while to collapse. If every milk producer quit it would be over within a few days. What would the dairy companies do exactly? Ship the same volume of fresh milk in from abroad? Milk that isn’t RT assured?

There was a chap called John Loftus (?) who managed to organise a large number of dairy farmers many years ago. Doing similar to get rid of RT would appear to be a much easier job because it would benefit every single dairy farmer in the country without exception. There is an open goal there, just needs one person to start to organise it. Stick together? Why wouldn’t every dairy farmer want this? There is nooooo benefit to not being involved.

I guess the red tractor requirement is in the milk contract. The only way is for every single dairy farmer to do it together and as @Bald Rick says, there's little chance of that.

 

[Skimmer]

Keep pressure on merchants to find non assured markets.

 

[DeeGee]

You’re absolutely correct. However, the one sector that could utterly slaughter RT is the dairy sector precisely because of the perishable nature of milk. If every grain producer quit simultaneously it would take a while to collapse. If every milk producer quit it would be over within a few days. What would the dairy companies do exactly? Ship the same volume of fresh milk in from abroad? Milk that isn’t RT assured?

There was a chap called John Loftus (?) who managed to organise a large number of dairy farmers many years ago. Doing similar to get rid of RT would appear to be a much easier job because it would benefit every single dairy farmer in the country without exception. There is an open goal there, just needs one person to start to organise it. Stick together? Why wouldn’t every dairy farmer want this? There is nooooo benefit to not .

Maybe buyers would offer huge financial incentives to one or two of their biggest suppliers to break ranks?

There will always be the greedy ‘clever’ farmers who will never stick together if they are given the incentive not to. Very, very sad; but true.