Massey 135 with log splitter?

[Pennine Ploughing]

I do feel that what your trying to do will be a halfway house,and trying to cut corners, this you will regret soon after doing it,
what ever you do the 135 will not have the oil flow, and the splitter will be very slow, I can see your point of what your trying to do,
if this is a long term job, then do it right, the first cost is the least cost, any remedial work after is just wasting money,

If it had been me, I would of fitted its own pto pump and tank, this would give it the flow with little revs on the tractor, a 135 will use next to nothing in fuel, and be quite, does anyone know what pressure a hedge cutter pump will put out, as the flow would be good at tick over ?,
now having done that the next problem would be, the pto shaft, why?
the 135 arms from the hitch point to the pto shaft will be nearly twice the distance of the Marshall, so the same shaft will not do both if you need to swap tractors for some reason,
so maybe consider mounting the splitter on an old roto spreader chassis or the likes, then while using a long shaft and on the drawbar, it would be a straight swap from tractor to tractor no messing,

I really think you will regret trying to power a splitter off a 135 hyd system

 

[devonbrion1998]

Thanks Pennine, I understand what you are saying,so lets go for a decent splitter with its own pump,
but i must say,i did put my 10 ton oxdale on the 135 and to be fair to the little tractor i have seen a lot slower vids on you tube,but as you say lets get it right and invest in a decent bit of kit...i do have a bid going on one on ebay 14 ton tidy looking machine,the only bit im not sure on is this pto thing,
will it not extend? to fit differant tractors?or am i right in thiking it will be a short stubby pto shalf?
all a bit of fun....im off to my first vintage ploughing match in a couple of weeks so that will be the next craze.

 

[Mursal]

I suppose a link to the splitter up for auction, is out of the question, just in case someone wipes your eye?

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

,the only bit im not sure on is this pto thing,
will it not extend? to fit differant tractors

the pto shaft will extend as you put it, problem is the distance from the tractor shaft end to the link arm balls will be a lot shorter on the Marshall, and longer on the 135, this will mean to get it short enough to fit the Marshall when hitching it up, will also mean when extended to fit the 135 after hitching up, the center tubes of the shaft will not have enough hold to drive,
Marshall pto shafts stick a long way back from the axle, and they always need a shorter shaft than other tractors,
135 pto shaft end is close the the axle, and the arms are as long if not longer, so longer shaft is needed,

 

[devonbrion1998]

ah! got it, nothing simple is it.
Never mind 3 tractors and 2 splitters should be able to keep one going at all time
the new pto driven splitter will have to stay with the two small tractors.

 

[agrimax]

You don't need a pto shaft if you buy a splitter with a pto mounted pump.

as in this type.

Already fitted on these..

 

[devonbrion1998]

smart looking machines,thats the way to go then.

 

[REStracTORATION]

Just get a pump off a old hedgecutter or back actor with the intergrate coupling for to fit direct to your shaft, alot simpler , fits both tractors universally simple too

 

[agrimax]

An oil tank would be required too then..........

 

[REStracTORATION]

An oil tank would be required too then..........

Well obviously but it's not rocket science is it and it cure's the shaft dilemma and fits every tractor

Log splitting by lunch time

 

[Campbell]

Would this work on a 135?
Fit a PTO hyd pump unit, take the oil supply from the tractor transmission drain plug hole [lower left side], returning into top of gear box via the fill cap.
Plus points:
Splitter working at correct speed.
Lift arms remain independent.
Neat bit of plumbing using QR couplings.
Plenty of oil capacity.
Cooling should be OK.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Trouble with using the back end oil with an external pump is that there's only about 30l in the gearbox & back end. The pump will be cycling it through at a fair rate which will heat it up plus cause it to be foamy from the return. The plumbing would be more complicated than if a separate tank was used.

 

[Kidds]

I used my Oxdale on an IH434 with the return just dumping in the filler hole, soon got too foamy and pumping air/oil doesn't do pumps much good.
I solved that problem by extending the return well down into the casing. Solved the problem but it was a crap tractor for the job anyway.

 

[Fievel Farmanimal]

One Finnish forum fellow of mine made suction and return through left round side cover on 265, should work on 135 too. Some pics over there:
http://www.masinistit.com/keskustelupalsta/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=88635&p=1043649#p1043649

30l of oil shouldn't be big problem, cause many MF have bigger pumps, than basic 135.