"Methane evidence needed" - DEFRA

[onesiedale]

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The UK Government has today launched a UK-wide call for evidence asking agricultural industry, scientists and the wider public for information on the use of new types of animal feed products that can reduce methane emissions from livestock.

Ruminant livestock – cows and sheep - are the leading cause of farm greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. However, feed products with methane inhibiting properties have shown potential in reducing reduce GHG emissions, especially from housed cattle. These products may include ingredients like methane production inhibitors, seaweeds, essential oils, organic acids, probiotics, and antimicrobials


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-seeks-views-on-reducing-livestock-methane-production

This ^^ is needing an overwhelming response before it becomes government policy for us to feed ruminants another input manufactured by big/corporate pharma.
After years of telling us to reduce the use of antimicrobial products, all of a sudden it seems to be ok to feed them to ruminants.
All on the back of science

 

[Grass And Grain]

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The UK Government has today launched a UK-wide call for evidence asking agricultural industry, scientists and the wider public for information on the use of new types of animal feed products that can reduce methane emissions from livestock.

Ruminant livestock – cows and sheep - are the leading cause of farm greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. However, feed products with methane inhibiting properties have shown potential in reducing reduce GHG emissions, especially from housed cattle. These products may include ingredients like methane production inhibitors, seaweeds, essential oils, organic acids, probiotics, and antimicrobials


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-seeks-views-on-reducing-livestock-methane-production

This ^^ is needing an overwhelming response before it becomes government policy for us to feed ruminants another input manufactured by big/corporate pharma.
After years of telling us to reduce the use of antimicrobial products, all of a sudden it seems to be ok to feed them to ruminants.
All on the back of science

Yes, didn't they ban monensin (Rumensin)?

There was another one on the market. Can't remember what it was called.

 

[delilah]

All on the back of science

Science that all of our national bodies - and that's all of them - support. Opportunity for the BFU to make a mark.

 

[delilah]

First things first, it would be an idea for folks to ask them why they are even conducting this exercise.


[email protected]

Good morning
You are asking for evidence on how to reduce methane emissions from livestock.
Why ?
Methane as belched by cattle and sheep makes no contribution to UK GHG emissions.
Look forward to your response.


https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/methane.350413/

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index...spirations-from-latest-climate-report.334556/

 

[Treg]

Science that all of our national bodies - and that's all of them - support. Opportunity for the BFU to make a mark.

I submitted evidence on behalf of BFU to the ELMS enquiry, we could do with someone with all the scientific knowledge for this one, any volunteers ?
@DaveGrohl seems to be good with the figures for this type of thing.

 

[onesiedale]

hot the nail on the head there.
Aside from the suggestion of feeding anti-mictobials, the Governments pre-amble actually states;
Ruminant livestock – cows and sheep - are the leading cause of farm greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions

This ^^ is factually wrong. It is a lazy statement that will be repeatedly used regardless of what evidence is submitted and acted upon
It tells us that they have already made their mind up.
Like was said above. this is the chance for the BFU to make a break
Still have the enquiry, but DEFRA need to change the wording of the Terms of Reference

 

[Tim W]

hot the nail on the head there.
Aside from the suggestion of feeding anti-mictobials, the Governments pre-amble actually states;
Ruminant livestock – cows and sheep - are the leading cause of farm greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions

This ^^ is factually wrong. It is a lazy statement that will be repeatedly used regardless of what evidence is submitted and acted upon
It tells us that they have already made their mind up.
Like was said above. this is the chance for the BFU to make a break
Still have the enquiry, but DEFRA need to change the wording of the Terms of Reference

What is the leading cause of farm GHG emissions?

 

[Badshot]

Good morning,

I'm interested to know why exactly we are targeting food production (livestock) as a means to reduce greenhouse gases before we target the nonsensical amount of unnecessary air travel.
The amount of fuel used in one hour by a jumbo jet would produce enough food to feed many thousands of people.
I believe it would run a 6000 acre combinable crop farm for in excess of a year.
I suggest you do the math and have a lightbulb moment that changes policy.

Regards



My contribution to the cause.

 

[devonbeef]

I think the fact that there are less uk ruminants then there were only a few decades ago in uk, and the extra methane (new methane) is created from other sources needs driving in

 

[devonbeef]

Good morning,

I'm interested to know why exactly we are targeting food production (livestock) as a means to reduce greenhouse gases before we target the nonsensical amount of unnecessary air travel.
The amount of fuel used in one hour by a jumbo jet would produce enough food to feed many thousands of people.
I believe it would run a 6000 acre combinable crop farm for in excess of a year.
I suggest you do the math and have a lightbulb moment that changes policy.

Regards



My contribution to the cause.

send it

 

[Wood field]

Bit lazy of me , but in my post covid haze I can’t think
I have copied and pasted @delilah , response above, I am also sending a copy to nfu and nsa
Be interesting if any of them respond

 

[onesiedale]

Ruminants are not adding to GHGs. they are part of the cycle. Fossil fuels are adding to GHGs

 

[devonbeef]

I submitted evidence on behalf of BFU to the ELMS enquiry, we could do with someone with all the scientific knowledge for this one, any volunteers ?
@DaveGrohl seems to be good with the figures for this type of thing.

If somebody with brains like dave could come up with a template that we could all download from here and send on to them

 

[onesiedale]

What is the leading cause of farm GHG emissions?

Ruminants are not adding to GHGs. they are part of the cycle. Fossil fuels are adding to GHGs

 

[delilah]

The problem we have, and it has manifested itself just 10 posts in, is this:

UK ag is utterly incapable of running a campaign. It can't just decide what its message is, get that message across in a clear manner, and stick to the point.

Instead, we are already into 'what in farming is worse than cows then ?', and 'cows aren't as bad as planes'.

Just stick to the point ffs. Methane as belched by cows and sheep does not contribute to UK GHG emissions.

And yes, I know plenty of the experts on here will tell me that that isn't strictly true. And that makes you part of the problem.

 

[devonbeef]

The problem we have, and it has manifested itself just 10 posts in, is this:

UK ag is utterly incapable of running a campaign. It can't just decide what its message is, get that message across in a clear manner, and stick to the point.

Instead, we are already into 'what in farming is worse than cows then ?', and 'cows aren't as bad as planes'.

Just stick to the point ffs. Methane as belched by cows and sheep does not contribute to UK GHG emissions.

And yes, I know plenty of the experts on here will tell me that that isn't strictly true. And that makes you part of the problem.

do we not just lose some credibility if we can not admit that cows scientifically do betch methane, Its like saying blacks is white.The fact is humans fart methane, many man made activities create methane .We need to keep reminding them of the vast herds which used to graze in the wild.That fact the cows were here in domesticated herds before methane was deemed a problem so the new methane is the problem surly and off cause the co2 production from mans many activities.

 

[Badshot]

send it

I have

 

[MrNoo]

You'd think a farming Union would be all over this, if we had one. This is just a perfect example of why the NFU are such utter garbage, always reactive and never proactive. Utter shower of sh!t

 

[Muddyroads]

Survey took about 15 minutes to complete. Probably not a bad investment of time if enough of us highlight the flawed basis on which their assumptions seem to have been made.

 

[Will Blackburn]

They are trying to clear the decks so they can introduce fracking and all uncontrollable CH4 emissions that follow.