mf and greenland balers

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is a mf 828 the same as a greenland rv156

 

[daveydiesel1]

I think a mf baler is really a lely welger

 

[tr250]

And Greenland would be a vicon I recon

 

[tr250]

After googling Greenland balers yes they are vicon also Kuhn all the same baler. Mf will be a lely welgar.

 

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oh yeah thats it

just looking at mf 828 and vicon rv156 and they look really similar

which one is better?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Have a look at the kuhn. Vicon isnt making the greenland design anymore. There makin some1 elses baler now but cant remember whos. Kuhn is making the greenland now as is deutz afaik and it has a great intake. Seen them working beside a welger and mchale and in a large lumpy row the mchale and welger were blockin and slippin the clutch the kuhn just ate it all up no problem

 

[tr250]

We sold our last round baler 10 years ago so a bit might have changed but our welgar 435 at the time would leave any other baler standing probably didn’t make as tidy bales at a vicon but went faster. I may be wrong but I’m fairly sure a welgar is 2” wider bale than any other baler that’s why net can look a bit scruffy on the shoulder

 

[Tony1989]

Yes they are pretty much the same baler

 

[Fendt516profi]

Have a look at the kuhn. Vicon isnt making the greenland design anymore. There makin some1 elses baler now but cant remember whos. Kuhn is making the greenland now as is deutz afaik and it has a great intake. Seen them working beside a welger and mchale and in a large lumpy row the mchale and welger were blockin and slippin the clutch the kuhn just ate it all up no problem

Is vicon Kubota

 

[tr250]

Yes they are pretty much the same baler

What Greenland and vicon or Greenland and mf?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Is vicon Kubota

Yes think vicon was part of the kv group which is now owned by kubota

 

[Tony1989]

All three are the same, we had a Massey 822 and a Greenland RV156L and they are pretty much the same apart from a wide pickup and net wrap, the vicon is just later on with different stickers

 

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All three are the same, we had a Massey 822 and a Greenland RV156L and they are pretty much the same apart from a wide pickup and net wrap, the vicon is just later on with different stickers

who made the original

 

[daveydiesel1]

Sorry i thought it was a new mf baler u were lookin at which is a welger. Didnt pay enough attention to what model number u wrote

 

[Tony1989]

I think Greenland is original and I’m sure the plate said geldrop?

 

[Cowabunga]

Have a look at the kuhn. Vicon isnt making the greenland design anymore. There makin some1 elses baler now but cant remember whos. Kuhn is making the greenland now as is deutz afaik and it has a great intake. Seen them working beside a welger and mchale and in a large lumpy row the mchale and welger were blockin and slippin the clutch the kuhn just ate it all up no problem

The Kubota/Kv/Vicon baler is a Gallignani. Don't let that put you off, it 'might be' a good baler. I say 'might be' because there are not many around and I have almost zero experience of them. They were indeed sold as MF balers until Kubota bought Kv and AGCO bought Lely's machinery division.

It's a bit like a magic roundabout or a dog eat dog.

 

[Hesstondriver]

I had a 828 . The thought of it still sends shudders down my spine . Mf dealer was useless . Not good on anything wet . Ok on straw / hay but not very dense by modern standards

 

[Cowabunga]

I think Greenland is original and I’m sure the plate said geldrop?

Greenland was a sort of alliance between Vicon, Deutz and Kv I think. Certainly the two first names. Then perhaps Kv bought the two out, I don't remember precisely. Anyhow it ended up with Kv loaded with so much debt that they had to sell Vicon and the baler design to make some payments due. It was a good deal for them because Kuhn were under the impression that they had bought the Geldorp baler factory but it turned out that they had only bought the baler and drum mower designs and had to rent the factory.
Currently, of course, the Kv group poured some money into the under-utilised but very very modern Gallignani baler factory and all the Kv company was bought out be Kubota.

So Vicon balers are now Kuhn and balers with the Vicon badge are Gallignani/Vicon. All in their second or third generation now since the musical chairs.

There you are, it's all so very simple.

 

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I had a 828 . The thought of it still sends shudders down my spine . Mf dealer was useless . Not good on anything wet . Ok on straw / hay but not very dense by modern standards

want a fixed chamber for density?